monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 grrr dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 That's fantastic and all, but you've been dragging it out for about half the thread now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 That's fantastic and all, but you've been dragging it out for about half the thread now...Hey mark , i didnt drag it out! , It was general wankers that wanted to say it was boring or they did drugs!Hence The shitty following of TF.I wanted to keep it nice, but i guess it was too much to ask........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 If you don't STFU, I am actually going to suspend you so this topic can actually carry on...Mark Cavendish looks like a Thalidomide baby, or a dwarf or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 On a "British dude in the Tour" note, it seemed weird how all the commentators and people texting in were saying that Bradley Wiggins was "Average" today, but he kept up with the head of the peloton and didn't lose time overall? I don't really see how that's a bad thing, bearing in mind none of the other front-runners were particularly outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 For me it's a lot like Moto GP only a lot slower.. boring boring boringawesome overtaking maneuver/sprintboring boring boringmassive crash/pileupboring boring boringawesome overtaking maneuver/sprint...The only difference being that in Moto GP it's all happening so much quicker and thus more regularly (this is more about the overtaking than the crashing) that it's actually entertaining to watch for long periods of time.The long drawn out stages of the tour are pretty dull up until the end when they dig deep, unless they have a pile up. I used to be a roadie, so don't get me wrong, I don't hate the sport, but I have no interest in watching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Mark Cavendish looks like a Thalidomide baby, or a dwarf or something.Man, you're right! He even has the Green jersey Mark's after... And that picture mentions pills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 If you don't STFU, I am actually going to suspend you so this topic can actually carry on...Mark Cavendish looks like a Thalidomide baby, or a dwarf or something.are you giving me an opertunity to realy offend a moderator?On a "British dude in the Tour" note, it seemed weird how all the commentators and people texting in were saying that Bradley Wiggins was "Average" today, but he kept up with the head of the peloton and didn't lose time overall? I don't really see how that's a bad thing, bearing in mind none of the other front-runners were particularly outstanding.mark,, the only person that has made sense tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Give it a go, see what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 The long drawn out stages of the tour are pretty dull up until the end when they dig deep, unless they have a pile up.At least they actually keep on moving on the tour... some of those velodrome events at the Olympics are just completely f**ked up. A race where you go really f**king slow for the first 2000m and actually stop and trackstand for periods and then finally sprint the final lap and no more. Why not just do the last lap and be done with it? And don't get me started on the one where you have 100 people and a 1920's motorbike going round... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Give it a go, see what happens?I love , so I wont be giving it a go. And I also know that you probably dont think far off me!x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 They actually make sense when you know the rules and so on. It's weird, but the keirin velodrome races are actually the one of the biggest betting sports in the whole of Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 At least they actually keep on moving on the tour... some of those velodrome events at the Olympics are just completely f**ked up. A race where you go really f**king slow for the first 2000m and actually stop and trackstand for periods and then finally sprint the final lap and no more.I hear you!There really are some retarded cycling events, spectators aside.. riding a bike is about having fun, pushing yourself, feeling good and doing what makes you happy. You're not really pushing yourself if you're sat there waiting for your opponent to f**k up.I'd love to see some turn up to a sprint like that and just blast off the line and leave the other guy standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 They actually make sense when you know the rules and so on. It's weird, but the keirin velodrome races are actually the one of the biggest betting sports in the whole of Japan.Realy?I love to see pics or what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 They actually make sense when you know the rules and so on. It's weird, but the keirin velodrome races are actually the one of the biggest betting sports in the whole of Japan.In Guernsey they used to do a 'slow' race at one of the harbor carnivals (before I was into bikes).. You'd always get the clown who would just sprint from the start and 'win'. He was always my favorite.What's the craic with them sitting on the start line for so long then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'd love to see some turn up to a sprint like that and just blast off the line and leave the other guy standing.The other person could slipstream them for the entire race, then do them on the final straight when the leader's tiring but they've been able to keep cool the whole race. That's why there's a shitload of tactics involved. I'd also imagine that you could fairly safely describe sprinting as hard as you're physically able for a lap or so as 'pushing yourself'...Realy?I love to see pics or what not. In the book about Chris Hoy and the British Olympics team (Can't remember the name, sorry!), they talk about him going over there to try it. You have to go to a keirin school to learn the official rules and pass tests to be allowed to compete. You have to declare your race strategy up to 2 days before the race (So say if you're going to sit in 2nd, 3rd, or lead out or whatever you're planning) and you're not allowed to change it at all. They're strict as f**k 'cos it's big, big money over there. Quite a bit of stuff online if you Google it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nichols Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 (edited) Added thought: Is it something to do with the person who is second being sat on the other dudes wheel therfore giving him the advantage of slipstream? And being able to slingshot himself Ricky Bobby style?Edit: I hoped I was quick enough to tag this onto the bottom of my previous post, but yeah, I see what you're saying. Edited July 17, 2009 by nichols_sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 What's the craic with them sitting on the start line for so long then?They're not allowed to do that any more. If you're stationary for more than _ seconds you're DQ'd. The rest of it is waiting to see when someone else is going to make a move, purely because of that slip-stream thing I was saying earlier on. It's a case of seeing if you can just f**king haul away and keep the other person behind, or waiting for them to make a move then slip-stream and see if you can get round them. There's loads of different ways it could go down, basically. That's what I was saying about once you knowing the rules, it's actually pretty interesting. I'm more into out-right sprints, but the more 'eccentric' ones are pretty interesting too!EDIT: Hoped I was quick enough too, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 One of the things with the Keirin is that the Japs gamble hugely on it though isn't it? It ain't normal I tell thee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Added thought: Is it something to do with the person who is second being sat on the other dudes wheel therfore giving him the advantage of slipstream? And being able to slingshot himself Ricky Bobby style?Edit: I hoped I was quick enough to tag this onto the bottom of my previous post, but yeah, I see what you're saying.haha , great humour in your second para! lol x Slipstreaming saves 30 percent they reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 One of the things with the Keirin is that the Japs gamble hugely on it though isn't it? It ain't normal I tell thee.It's weird, but the keirin velodrome races are actually the one of the biggest betting sports in the whole of Japan.In the book about Chris Hoy and the British Olympics team (Can't remember the name, sorry!), they talk about him going over there to try it. You have to go to a keirin school to learn the official rules and pass tests to be allowed to compete. You have to declare your race strategy up to 2 days before the race (So say if you're going to sit in 2nd, 3rd, or lead out or whatever you're planning) and you're not allowed to change it at all. They're strict as f**k 'cos it's big, big money over there. Quite a bit of stuff online if you Google it!Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Yep Damn you, just saw that. My brain somehow managed to miss that bit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe' Posted July 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 (edited) .......Oi Hoy ,,,,RACE you . Damn you, just saw that. My brain somehow managed to miss that bit .Dave Marshall , your a bell end.Dont worry folks he knows it , hes a major dildo! Edited July 17, 2009 by Christophe' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Your mum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 are you giving me an opertunity to realy offend a moderator?You can try. I doubt I'd be offended though, and I have a ban button right here. Your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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