Shez.sheridan Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I've recently bought a used 221Ti with hope discs all around only to find that the rear disc rotor (160mm I believe) has sheared in 6 places...so I'm looking for a replacement. I've looked at Tartybikes & the 160mm Monty Kamel rotor is discontinued, does anyone know where I can find one as I'd prefer to substitute it with an original. Alternatively, can anyone suggest another rotor, no clearance issues etc? I've been looking at the Hope Trial Zone Rotor, has anyone experience of this rotor, clearances, reliability? Cheers, Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Try Malcolm rathmell sport, they are a monty dealer. No harm in ringing and asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I've recently bought a used 221Ti with hope discs all around only to find that the rear disc rotor (160mm I believe) has sheared in 6 places...so I'm looking for a replacement. Hope - Cracked Rotor.JPG Hope---Cracked-Rotor1.jpg I've looked at Tartybikes & the 160mm Monty Kamel rotor is discontinued, does anyone know where I can find one as I'd prefer to substitute it with an original. rotor_monty_022.jpg Alternatively, can anyone suggest another rotor, no clearance issues etc? I've been looking at the Hope Trial Zone Rotor, has anyone experience of this rotor, clearances, reliability? Cheers, Dave It´s a mono trial brake, so mono trial rotor is original http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/disc_brake_rotors/hope_mono_trial/c76p24.html. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) It´s a mono trial brake, so mono trial rotor is original http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/disc_brake_rotors/hope_mono_trial/c76p24.html. No, these came with montys own design brake disk fitted as standard. He wants a monty disk, not a hope disk. They look totally different. Monty disk Hope disk He needs a disk with the same size pad track, something like one of these two or a giant mph disk. Most disks these days appear to be narrow track Edited March 25, 2013 by bing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Ask Ben at trials Addict if he has one as he has older stuff like this but it just isnt listed on his site Edited March 25, 2013 by bike_dummie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez.sheridan Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Cheers guys, I could look at a substitute disc but I'm not sure what will work with regards to spacing/clearance etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 No, these came with montys own design brake disk fitted as standard. He wants a monty disk, not a hope disk. They look totally different. Monty diskimage.jpg Hope diskimage.jpg He needs a disk with the same size pad track, something like one of these two or a giant mph disk. Most disks these days appear to be narrow track It is hope mono trial brake with monty written on the reservoir cap, so he could use mono trial rotor? I never said they didn´t come with the rotors posted in the first post, but it´s pretty obvious they aren´t very good isn´t it? I´ve never seen rotor crack like that before in one place, this cracked in 6 ffs! So yes, original mono trial rotor could be used as it was designed to be used with this exact brake and has enough surface for pads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmertrials Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 yayyyy more argumentzzz :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Yayyy more useless advices :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Rotors comparable with that brake and frame Hope mono trial, hope trialzone, monty, jaf, echo, there are a few more. All it needs to be is 160mm and be the same depth for the brake surface to fit the brake pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Yayyy more useless advices :) The point was he wants to replace it with the same disk, which is NOT a hope disk, its a monty one. If he wants to keep it looking the same, this is what he is gonna have to try and get hold of. Otherwise its a pair of disks, in which case I'd get trial zone rotors. How am i dishing out useless advice? Read every other thread and you seem to be the one dishing out wank advice and causing arguments. Do us all a favour and f**k offRotors comparable with that brake and frame Hope mono trial, hope trialzone, monty, jaf, echo, there are a few more. All it needs to be is 160mm and be the same depth for the brake surface to fit the brake pads. I wouldn't get an echo rotor, they are notoriously difficult to bed in and get a good feel/bite from, speaking from experience Edited March 25, 2013 by bing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykid009 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 You can use any rotor with the same diameter, it really doesn't matter! My vote goes with the Shimano RT76.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) Alternatively, can anyone suggest another rotor, no clearance issues etc? I've been looking at the Hope Trial Zone Rotor, has anyone experience of this rotor, clearances, reliability? The point was he wants to replace it with the same disk, which is NOT a hope disk, its a monty one. If he wants to keep it looking the same, this is what he is gonna have to try and get hold of. Otherwise its a pair of disks, in which case I'd get trial zone rotors. How am i dishing out useless advice? Read every other thread and you seem to be the one dishing out wank advice and causing arguments. Do us all a favour and f**k off Do us all a favour and learn to read. Also, feel free to show me a thread with my wank advices, I´m looking forward to that. Good luck. Edited March 25, 2013 by ghostrider88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane666r Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) I got one of these rotors pm me sure we can sort somin out Edited March 25, 2013 by kane666r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 You can use any rotor with the same diameter, it really doesn't matter! My vote goes with the Shimano RT76.... I use these, very good disks, although the track maybe a little narrow for mono trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I use these, very good disks, although the track maybe a little narrow for mono trials I can agree with that, very narrow for mono trial pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) It depends how much money you want to spend dude, a trial zone rotor is the best part of 30 quid, you'd be better off looking on crc and trying to find a match Edited March 25, 2013 by bing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) So did I, first try actually Look, I´m trying to help him like I´m always when someone asks serious question and I know the answer. If I don´t know the answer, I don´t reply, simple as that. Now I´m not saying you aren´t doing the same, just in some cases better advice can be given, that´s all. In this case, your advice wasn´t "wrong" just incomplete I would say. What´s the point of using rotor that fails like that when there are at least 2original replacements that could do the job better(mono trial or trial zone) and for cheaper as well??? Edited March 25, 2013 by ghostrider88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I've just had a look on crc, it appears the only rotors with a wide enough track are Hayes, clarks or the hope mono trial, v series disks, and the closed2 disks. Or a giant mph disk, as mentioned before. That's all I can suggest pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customrider-Rhys Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 get a mono trial, they give better hold than all the other rotors, thats from experience and what joe maher told me from his experience with that and the trialzone one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 What´s the point of using rotor that fails like that... The one he broke appears to be an early version, hence it having a thinner lower part and the little notched cut-outs. If you look at the photo from our website, the design has changed to stop that happening. Same way the original Mono Trial rotor design changed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrider88 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 The one he broke appears to be an early version, hence it having a thinner lower part and the little notched cut-outs. If you look at the photo from our website, the design has changed to stop that happening. Same way the original Mono Trial rotor design changed... Could be, the rest of cons stay though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 There aren't really any "cons" in a performance sense though. I mean, I'm not suggesting to go for it as there are better rotors out there, but if he particularly wanted to have it 'matching' or whatever then the updated ones can and do work OK. But yeah, Mono Trial... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez.sheridan Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Cheers guys, I'm probably going to go with the Mono trial/trial zone if I can't sort a replacement as the 'originals seem to be as rare as rocking horse s**t,. Are there any great differences between the two, I just want the break to block really (the monty one seems to block, then creep forward/backwards on the edge of obstacles) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 You won't get a direct replacement unfortunately - they were rare back in '06/07, now they're impossible to get (believe me, I've been looking for about 3 years!). The Mono Trial is virtually identical, but may have slightly more hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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