Hobnobs Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Alright, so my koxx yellows have suddenly gone uber crap, for no apparent reason. They havent got loads of pad left so i thought i would get some new ones. But i am spoilt for choice. I do NOT want to run a grind, as i really just cant be arsed, i know it makes it loads better, but i want a reliable brake without one. I want pads which will last quite a while, but to be honest, i doubt any pad will wear greatly on a smooth rim. I dont manual, so i want BITE and LOCK, modulation would just be a bonus! So choose the pad which you think would be best for my situation! As they are all between 10-18 quid, price doesnt matter. Fil. P.S sorry if this has been posted, i just need help for my specific situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Plazmatic CRM works fine on smooth rims. Just keep 'em clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsguru Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 zoo pads seemed to work well on a smooth rim when i tried someones bike, make a loud sqeak though but some people like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Plazmatic CRM's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 plazmatics crms worked good on my koxx rim. and worked even better on a bmf(same material as a ronnie, echo). but they lacked bite. also as soon as wetness comes in contact with the plazmatics they become USELESS :turned: . Also when i added tar to help them work better in the dry, it didnt really appect the perfomance noticeabley. Then i found the wounders of the ZOO! pad (Y) :- they worked ace on a dirty rim. worked when slightly wet. worked more than ace on a clean rim. they work when its snowing. worked UBER ace with little tar. all in order from good to ACE!!! they have squeek and bite in all of the above and still work ace. so theyre goona work even better on something like a; ronnie, bmf of echo rim(harder material, better braking surface) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cultiv8ed ::Chris:: Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 if u don't want a grind then zoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted February 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 What about the life on the zoo pads, they sound very good, but ive heard they wear down in seconds. At the moment, i have a pretty dead grind, but would i be better off if i sanded it down as much as i could because i would be very happy if these pads lasted me 6 months..... (is that asking too much?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 What about the life on the zoo pads, they sound very good, but ive heard they wear down in seconds. At the moment, i have a pretty dead grind, but would i be better off if i sanded it down as much as i could because i would be very happy if these pads lasted me 6 months..... (is that asking too much?) ← they should last. but im unsure... get a new rim? they are showing no signs of wear on my rim... but did wear fairly quick on my mates grind. BUT even if you do sand the grind off, itll still have a rough braking surface.... :turned: there again a reckon it it wasnt uber smooth.. then theyd still grip and bite ACE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 At the moment, i have a pretty dead grind ← In my experience, once you have done a grind on a rim, thats it, it has to be a ground rim forever. Even when you think a grind has totally worn off, it will still have many imperfections that will actually make a brake worse. Even sanding it down wont solve this. If I were you Id stick with grinding, or if your desperate for no grinding, get a new smooth rim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnzaNewbie Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 The red rim jams are very nice on a smooth rim. Went out on them today in the snow, my rim got wet and dirty and they still worked really nice. Only got them last week but they are really nice, nicer than koxx blocks I've heard :turned: Marc :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted February 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 You recon? Damn, i dont really wanna shell out cash for a new rim. Anyone else had this experience from their rims? Also, how many grinds can a run of the mill onza rim ( the dx32 one, i think) take before it gets really weak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Zoo pads should work great on a dead grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cultiv8ed ::Chris:: Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 You recon? Damn, i dont really wanna shell out cash for a new rim. i guess you could try sanding the rim smooth with some wet and dry sand paper because that will help get it nice and smooth. chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 i guess you could try sanding the rim smooth with some wet and dry sand paper because that will help get it nice and smooth. chris ← but itll be too smooth. even smoother than before the grind, just use a very light grind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted February 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Well ideally i want to get my rim as smooth as possible, so i might try ye olde elbow grease and sandpaper. If only pads were cheaper! I would love to get my hands on heatsinks, and grind my rim again, but hes stopped making them :turned: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Use REALLY fine wet and dry, then go round with brasso. Thats about as smooth as you can get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Also, how many grinds can a run of the mill onza rim ( the dx32 one, i think) take before it gets really weak? ← Bloody ages, from what I can tell with mine and other people's. My green Batch B 'sinks are working nicely. Got Plaz CRM's on a ground rim up front, and both brakes work stupidly well in the wet. Yes, you read that right - CRM's, working well, in the rain. EDIT: Steve's restarting orders this week some time, I believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roozor Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Can anyone recommend me pads for my setup, hs33's on a try-all gold drilled rim (the 38mm one i think, really wide!) with a super light grind as it's wearing off and i probably wont grind again. Zebdi frame. I would use heatsink's as they sound really good but they say on the site not to use with try-all/koxx rims :turned: I'm after a super lock, had really bad falls recently flying onto my back and arse :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisa Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Can anyone recommend me pads for my setup, hs33's on a try-all gold drilled rim (the 38mm one i think, really wide!) with a super light grind as it's wearing off and i probably wont grind again. Zebdi frame. I would use heatsink's as they sound really good but they say on the site not to use with try-all/koxx rims :blink: I'm after a super lock, had really bad falls recently flying onto my back and arse (Y) ← You have the 47mm rim alex.. best thing you could do is get som heatsink c's (if thier still made) Just run these and should lock pretty well. I would just regrind when needed and get some of the 05 white heatsinks, you will have a far beter brake. Also make sure the pads are 100% square to the rim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Plaz CRM.. loved mine on a smooth rim, just make sure you keep the pads and braking surface clean. I sometimes used the smallest amount of tar, like a 3 cm long line of it on each side of the rim. Locked up great and the bite was also great :blink: I'm now running them on a grind and the ony advantage I'v found is a little more modulation (Y) Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 I went for Koxx browns mainley because I can't falt them :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Make Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 (edited) ZOO! Pads for smooth rim! Very good with tar! Now you go and get some... Edited February 28, 2005 by Da Make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todge Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 I found the original Koxx padds very good on my CD D521 rim. However, I have also used Rim Jams a fair bit. Most of the time on a grind, and they are VERY VERY good. Always consistant, dont fade, and a reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Plazmatic CRM works fine on smooth rims. Just keep 'em clean. ← I had mine on the front for 5 mins and they glazed over and went shite. Got a grind on the front now and they are amazing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickycoleman Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Well you know what im going to say about this fil, I think you should just wear your grind about a little bit and get some rim jam blues, then use tar(this is after you have got a smooth surface again) that in my expeirience is the best brake ive had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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