Rich4130@hotmail.com

[random]

I was ment to be buying Rich's Shimano XTR booster for £10 and £1 posted. We'd agreed to use Paypal.com and i said i don't have an account but my house mates does. Rich said yes okay. sent him the £11 everything cool. say he didnt get an e-mail saying he'd money..then he does and then all hell kicks off. He's been told shit on here about me which i duno has anyhting to do with Paypal at all. he says he sent the money back he hasnt and also say's he;ll refund the 57p too how i duno..also he's my addres and i duno what i can expect to come.

rich4130@hotmail.com is he msn n e-mail

richard@claydon23.wanadoo.co.uk the paypal account

tried calling him and no pick up

Jo n my self are exreamyl pissed off at him.

i paid sidehop today off the same account for coust pads and he got it fine told him the same as what i told Rich and yesterday paid Cal;eb for a 20t burn ring and said the same as to rich n sidehop...no problem s with both just rich

be warned if you to do deal with rich anyone

outt pocket now by £11 due to a f**king wanker and thef

[Bigman]

That is abit gay Pete, dunno y every one has a hard time with you, and i mean it isn't as if it was your paypal account either, and he had the money, so why be gay about it, god, people like this piss me off.

Adam

[Siders77]

Pete's been a sound guy with me, he sent the money through PayPal with NO problems at all! I dunno what this is all about but I would trust Pete! :turned:

[TheCircus]

I know Rich and I sincerely doubt he is a theif or anything of the sort, hes a thoroughly nice bloke.

Maybe try and sort it out when he next comes online rather than as soon as something goes wrong go giving him a bad name?

[random]

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

rich i've sent you £11 just now

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

got my addy for plymouth yeah?

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

ye

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

sweet...so you putting in post box tonigh or sending it post office tommorw?

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

ive not got an email from paypal

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

oh...

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

richard@claydon23.wanadoo.co.uk sent it to that...said it paid geffory someone

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

yea my oldman

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

ah right

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

maybe his e-mail has the paypal info ?

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

nah

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

il look

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

okay dude

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

Joseph Biddlecombe?

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

eh?

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

yeah thats him

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

surely u know his name lol

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i know him as jo..it should say ref pjalchemist and booster in the notes

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

ok

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

it's like my names peter but only me mother called me that when she was alive when iwas bad but all call me pete..yet when somone asks for peter no one knmows what to do

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

hehe

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

checked the notes for pjalchemist and booster?/

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

im doing it!!

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

okay!!!!!!!!!

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

how do I know that 'jo' is aware of u doing that though?

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

what you mean??

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

usuing his paypal

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i go get him if you want

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

nah sorry man, i'm not accepting that

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

i'll refund it

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

why??

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

and you can send a cheque/cash etc

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i dont have payu pal, sidehop just got paid via it fdor some pads he can veryfi it

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

cheque i dont do

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

cash then

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

dude the effort now on paypal and loss is pointless

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

why wont you take pay pal?

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

caleb and sidehop can both say it's me and okay as i paid caleb yesterday and sidehop today

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

ah well

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

i dont like paypal, and i dont know you soo..

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

caleb_bohen604@hotmail.com and siders77@hotmail.com

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

i'l refund it etc etc

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

they both have been p[aid and are online right now to conferm it

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

celab is away

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

hang on before you refund i'll get jo to say yes or no

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

sidehop is too

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

why say yes to paypal if you didnt want it doing..i told you a mate would do it for me a si dont have it and he's in the same house as me

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

because

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

the sellar policy thing is : eller Protection Policy:

Ineligible

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

and theres no address

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

and i had a friendly warning about you from somebody

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

cos i sent you my addres as jo addy on there is for his home up north as he's a uni student...

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i'll call you and put you on to him if you want

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

so you takje my money then decied othersaiwe greta cheers mate

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

ok blah blah, i'l refund, send me concealed cash

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i havent done a thing it's all moth..nothing said on rides just a forum elctronic shit

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

dude yopu need to speak to jo..you've my money there

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

refunded

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

anser1111

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

sorry, send me cheque/cash

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

*answer

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

answer?

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

ah me phones still in my bag on silent

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

go get

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

I've refunded it now

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

still this will sort oput me paying cash

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

not happy me n jo dude i told you not too

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

answer please

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

wtf?

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

eithe pay cash/cheque simple

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

yeah i will but need you to answer the phone

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

i dont want to pay paypal, sorry,

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

why say you did in the `st then?? nothing adds up at all with you er

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

why do u need me 2 go all the way down to the garage 2 get my bag/phone when im talkin 2 u on here

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

look whats you reason for paypal??

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

it the same a smne going to the bank...it'll be someone eles doing the tranactio the dude or bird that works in there so no differnt to paypal just the fact i aint got a account on paypal and jo has and said he'd do it for me..like i did with caleb n sidehop

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

I dont like using it, im old fashioned, rather see the money

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

so why did you go through the fannying areound oif having me do it

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

just send me a cheque mate, i'll get it off asap

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i dont them i todl you

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

i didnt realise it wouldnt be yours

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i told you that too

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

well i dont do paypal, i told u

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

reapetldy told you

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

yea i didnt understand sorry

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

no you told me after i paid you

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

right so it was a mistake thnabk you asll i wanted to know..if it was a personl dig at me or not cos of what you though had been said form tyhre past which as never happen the money stuff and the storys n lies

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i'll do cash but need to get jo to check this paypal cos im pissed off now dude

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

yea blah blah, doesnt interest me, nowt personal

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

yep, i'l put the 57p in with the booster

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

by the way i was ringing you off jo's number if you wanted to confer with him on the paypal payment

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

so whats you banki details??

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

cheque?

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

DONT DO THEMN I@VE TOILD YOU

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

why not

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

cash directly in account by me walking into a branch of yours

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

nah

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

cos they take ages to clear and i like to deal directly

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

cash in the post then

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

risky

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

cash will be quicker than transfer

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

time too

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

pack it up in a jiffy bag in a cd case

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

cash directly paid into your accdount goes in when the cashire hit etner f**k me there been lots on the forum about it saying it's the way even tartybikes do it

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

£11 in cash is taken to say you with barclays. i got speak to the casher say i wana pay this into this account, hand the,m a bit of paper with you full name that on the acocunt, acount number 18 digit and sort code that it

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

i can;t set up any standing orders, direct dembit, credit cards etc get a loan or anyhting only pay in money to you

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

cash/cheque or no deal, sorry

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

i'l refund the 50p dont worry

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

cash dude and it'll be done 1st thing tomorw as i go to work i'll stop at the bank

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

im not posting cash...it's too risky even recored or singed for

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

you can have cash totmorw directly in you account and you can send the booster ytommorw

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

ah just forget the whole thing, im sick of this.

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

me too dude

I Could Never Reundo You - wtd, hope mono hub anybody got one..? says:

i'l refund your 50p dont worry

MK2 done now what build kit to have hehe says:

all i want is a booster yet your beliving whats beeing said to you by others and im sticking to whats ebing agreed by you

dude that the convo..fast moving okay...i said about going to the bank and paying it in directly tomorow but no he wants cash in hand..total wanker and we still have no refund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JT!]

Well, look, both get bank statements.

The that'll answer your questions wont it.

[TheCircus]

Its not exactly Rocket Science mate.

He didn't have trust in you.

Sending money in post isn't difficult.

[random]

Jo's checking his paypal every 5 seconds, nothing there at all.

Rich has my home addres and was being a complet dick about threats to it

Has my mates money which in turn is also mine and has not returned it at all

Thats theft in the eyes of the alw and it's already gone through paypal so what rules can i sue on there!!!!!!

Like i said i aint sending money in post..never have never will use to do cheuqs but stoped that cos i used intrenet banking or cash directly in you acocunt as payments..safer, faster direct.

Thing is this all was agreed to be done via paypal before i got jo to send the cash

Edited May 17, 2005 by random

[Siders77]

What I don't understand is why Rich went along with Pete paying the money into Rich's account, then Rich saying that he doesn't want to deal with Pete anymore? :) :turned:

Edited May 17, 2005 by Siders77

[rich4130]

Woah man, where did all this come from :turned:

As you can probably guess, thats not exactly the truth.

All boils down to, I'm not sure when it comes down to using paypal, and he payed with his 'mates', and when I copied his 'mates' full name into the convo, I wanst sure if he knew him, because his reaction was '?' whos that or similar, then I asked a well respected person on here, and he gave me a friendly warning, so I asked Pete to send me cheque/cash etc, and the reply was, no can do etc, so I didnt want to continue with the sale, incase his 'mate' didnt know about Pete using paypal.

I'll get the 50p to 'your mate' when I have a bit of paypal money, in the next day or so, as the £11 has obviously been refunded, but 50p taken from fees.

Somebody sort all this out. etc :)

I'm not exactly one of the kray twins :S

rich.

EDIT:good point about me continuing with the sale, I didnt take in what he said about his 'mate' etc, and after the warning, I decided to pull out.

Oh and obviously the mney has been refuned. Minus the 50p which I will get to him shortly.

I made a mistrake, but remember, this is Pete Wright.

Edited May 17, 2005 by rich4130

[random]

Yeah i'd liek to know wha tthe story that was told to dicki and who said it..where there evidence is and profe of it or how they hear of anyhting that never happend..why dicki strung me on as well as jo etc

[random]

Rich thats a lie...you said cash posted at one stage i said no posting cash..you can have it directly in you account even!!!!!

we still have no refund.

I told you it be a mate doing it too

[Ben Geary]

rich is not a rip off, i have dealt with him and he did not mess me around mate. :turned:

ben

[random]

Did Jo n my self!!!!!!!!

Still no refund on £11 at all showing on paypal dickki

[rich4130]

Wack. Dear Geoff Jones, (my daddy as im only 17)

You have sent a refund to Joseph Biddlecombe (Biddi3scales@hotmail.com).

Note to Buyer:

-----------------------------------

Payment Details

-----------------------------------

Date Payment Sent: 17 May 2005

Amount: 11.00 GBP

Someone please sort all this out.

[random]

Jo's contacted paypal

Both e-mail addres have loged in the e-mail to PP rich.

I still want this booster..gave yaa few options on how to be paid, PP or direct cash into you accoutn as most of us on er do..but nooo you wana see the money yet you can with direct into you account take it out the wall after i txt you saying it's in

[Siders77]

Well, if Pete gives me the money then I could send Rich a cheque or something so that Pete can get the booster and this can all be sorted out? :turned:

EDIT: Here are my refs just so that you know that I won't mess you about or anything!

Edited May 17, 2005 by Siders77

[random]

Thats cool with me sidehops, Rich??

Just recived the refund and conferm with Paypal on it and Creditcard. Thank you Ritch..shame it took this larking about to get anyhting done. So refering to sidehop's stament...you okay with that

Edited May 17, 2005 by random

[Danny]

Pete,

You sent him money through 'a' paypal account.

Hes not happy its your account as you dont even know the name of the persons account who it is.

He refunded the payment to 'the' paypal account as he thinks your ripping someone off you dont know.

Seams pretty simple to me pete? And judging by your past reputation hes right to be worried.

[random]

Danny - care to take not and explane er just you and me or on the phone or msn e-mail even my past rep?? very intrested to know.

Yeah i didn't know Jo's full name...i only just moved in with him. I explaned befor hand that it would be a mates account and everything was set to green form Rich

Anyway we've now the money back at alst and complant has been logged with Paypal. I didn't use Paypal, Jo did it and has tried calling Rich toi find out whats what.

[Dan6061]

1. Why couldn't you get your own paypal account? they're FREE!

2. I don't think everyone will stop buying off Rich, look at his refs...

3. Rich doesn't mess people about, I've known him most of my life and he has sold many things over MSN etc...

4. I can see why you are "Pissed off" but to be honest, I don't see why your making such a fuss about this at all. I can see why Rich pulled out. It is dodgy you using your "mates" paypal account when you could of got your own for free. You could see he didn't want to go through Paypal again but you still bugged him to do it. Which is why he pulled out.

5. It sounds like you messed him about a bit too, like when you kept on bugging him about not sending the money in the post because its "dodgy" or whatever. but it's basically exactly the same as using paypal, the money still gets to him safely. Just posting takes longer. And Rich had already said he didn't want to go with paypal again. but you tried anyway.

That's about all I can moan about.

oh yeah, and well done to whoever banned him :turned:

Edited May 17, 2005 by Dan6061

[random]

1. Back in the day when paypal came out it was US only. i used it a lot and it was all rocketry related items. There was a big fraud thing that happend and i got caught up in it sadly. Lots of people got ripped off and that incuded my self. So i have refused having any type of account as that. Go check CNN news states side for the info.

2. Think this was the plan..helloooo NO. Just to make it awera to NMB and others what can and does go on with memebers er. also to get him to talk as Jo wasn't getting an answer on his phone nor my self or txt's e-mails msn im blocked.

3. Well he does...Jo n my self are 2 of em

4. Rich was told before i sent the money that it'll be a mates. I won't be doing it just passing on the payment e-mail addy, end of.

5. He agrreed to paypal in black n white dude. cash is risky and your avised not to do it by the post office, bank of england and tf rules. i made other offers on paying him directly into his bank account..he'd have it in hand or back pocket as it would be where ever he keep his purse tommorow.

But personly ti'd like Danny to answer me back

[Dan6061]

1. so you got caught up in fraud..obviously that means every paypal user will rip you off! :turned:

2. if that wasn't the plan, why post this? and I'm pretty sure new members can figure out that people can rip others off...and not all members are the same.

3. That's not exactly ripping you off. Rich was just playing it safe. like any one would really. Would you buy something off someone if they where using their 'mates' account?

And how could he know that you actually put caleb or whoever on the phone?, he can't see them or anything, he'll just have to take your word for it.

4. maybe he did know, but he did say that when he got the friendly warning that he pulled out. Anyone would really.

5. maybe he did agree with paypal, but again, he did get told a friendly warning about you or whatever, so he pulled out.

Don't you think that after this incient that you could of just agreed with sending the cash/cheque?

you could probably work it out, even though Rich doesn't really do paypal, and you don't send cash/cheques.

[rich4130]

Cheers for the 'character witness' statements, lol jon/dan etc, but let this die now.

[random]

It was interanl at paypla not outside users. Go check or look on RMR

This ''friendly warining'' like to know as i have a nice handy list here of whom i have delet with of the years listing all tranactions from

Cash in hand

Paypal

Creditcard - me taking there

Cash to my account

Cheuq

Noxcheuq

Postal order

West Union

Now a good percentige of users er have sued that with 5 i know there was a problem...being they had visa electron when it 1st came out....

I've only delt with fatmike in the last 2 years on er and yeah it was a delayed payment which i mad esure he got at the bike show...why delayed...i never recived a e-mail, msn contatc, Pm...if i did it woulds of been sorted. But yeah thats where me finger points to and also why im not getting any ck stuff ohff him but also for other reasons