DeeZee Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Hello, I've a 2005 T-Rex, and I have a strong right side, so everytime I bail / crash / cock up, the bike tends to hit on the derailleur side.Is there any way to do with out a derailleur, go single speed, and just not have anything there, no derailleur or tensioner.Sure I know a cheap deraileur is only £15 and I break one every 3 months, but Its not the cost, its the fact I have to walk the bike home and loose a few days riding, when I muck up.I've read a few topics on single speed, but people still got something on the drop out, whether its a butchered rear mech or just a tensioner.Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 if you are extremely lucky, then you could run your bike with no tensioner if the chainstay is the right length.if not, have u every heard of a ghost cog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeZee Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 urrrmmmm..... nope.Whats that then? I know its not as simple as a Mod bike, cos that runs BMX style gears on it. I just thought, if its been done on a Mod, why not do something onto a Stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad dan Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Yes u can becuase ive done it on my saracen xile, but the chain is pretty tight so all my bearings are probably sagged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concussion Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Have you ever thought about using a rear mech protective...er thingy! You find them on cheap'o mtbs. My mate at LBS saves me the old ones for free.I'll post pic if don't know what I mean.PS: Your post got me thinking, why don't trials bikes have horizontal dropouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeZee Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 I'm thinking, why do trials bikes insist on hanging delicate parts off the rear stays? It would make much more sense if the tension was added between the 2 stays, rather than flopping about underneath them.I can understand on a mountain bike, or anthing with lots of gears, but why at all on a single speed set up? I suppose its not an issue if you prefer hopping to the left. But for us unfortunate souls who go right, its just an accident waiting to happen.Incidently, no, i don't know what a rear mech protector looks like. Do you have a pic. I have a Onza mech saver, but thats just cos I bent a hanger once, and it ruined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Is that what you mean?P.S. I'm not sure whether a guard is there at all but the caption of the picture said it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 try getting a half link. or running a ghost cog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concussion Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 This is what I meant. Its only gonna save so much I grant you but worth a try. Like I said, find them in LBS or old bikes you see getting thrown away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials_joe Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Whats a ghost cog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeZee Posted December 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 (edited) I Don't know what a Ghost cog is matey.As for the protector, yer I know what you mean now i've seen the pic. I'm not sure it would help, the majority of incidents end up smacking off the weakest bit - where the barrel adjuster is.I think its because its the lowest, and weakest part of the whole derailleur. Once that goes, the derailleur just keeps slipping the chain out of gear. Edited December 10, 2005 by DeeZee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials_joe Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Can somebody please inform me of what one is?Thankyou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concussion Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 I'm finding squat about a ghost cog! Don't forget about `half links` either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 a ghost cog is where you dont have any hanger or mech, you set your chain to the shortest you can get it and then find a cog (cassettte cog etc) and stuff it between the chain along the chainstays.It keeps the tension and stays put.....well, some of the time. They have a habbit of comming out and hurting you, thsts why they arn't so popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials_joe Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Ohh rite, i get it The half link idea is proberly your best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 I've heard of people trying it, Their chains usually slacked themselves off though, How about one of them roller thingys that downhillers use? Sorry about the overly large image ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Right don't think you run gears so I would say you should go for a Fresh Tensioner, heard many good things about them, plus they protect your mech hanger aswell as the Tensioner covers the hanger. Have a look on their website, http://www.freshproducts.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 well a mate of mine uses this for dirt jumping http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=242 seems to work pritty well. i still got gears on my DJ bike though, got all the chain guide stuff at the front keeps the chain on but when it does fall off it takes ages to put it back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<PACE> Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 I've put mine to single speed so my rear mec is just under the chainstay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeZee Posted December 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 OK, Thanks for everyone's replies, apprciate you taking some time to contribute towards the thread. From the responses, everyone seems to be taking about derailleurs and tensioners, so i'm guessing that in a roundabout way your answer is NO, You can't run a Stock without a derailleur or Tensioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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