python_man Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 The A2 is made of a different material because it is a competition bike some would say it’s slightly stronger but apart from a few cosmetic differences it’s just the material that the bikes are made from so that effects the weight the a2 is slightly lighter apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I have a Adamant A1!!! Nice bike by one well i intend on doing some competitions. I've just up graded my frame from the Giant to the Pure and i love it! Slightly cheaper than the Adamant A1.i was looking at that frame. it's now a desicion between the A2 and the pure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewannnn Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Feels awesome, my brother has the a1, best stock ive ridden so far out of a black mumba, echo pure, kenny baeley, toxsin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 The A2 is made of a different material because it is a competition bike some would say it’s slightly stronger but apart from a few cosmetic differences it’s just the material that the bikes are made from so that effects the weight the a2 is slightly lighter apparently Nonsence! Ever seen a high bb frame apart from the Vinco used in comps? Or any typically street Deng frame for that example? They're way too heavy and I'm almost certain they don't flex. The A2 is made of 6061 alloy which is a hell load weaker than U6 which the A1 is made of. From all I know, the A2 is also a lot heavier than the A1. This doesn't change the fact that if you like high-bb frames (and you can get used to them, it just takes time), the A1 is a superb choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Nonsence! Ever seen a high bb frame apart from the Vinco used in comps? is there a prolem with high BB bikes in comps? because i do intend on doing some. would the pure be a good bike for comps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 When I had high bb my comp results took a turn for the worse, theres more to a comp than rear wheel control, and high bb sucks for everything except that.The pure looks VERY nice, would be fine for comps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsalot Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 ali is the number one adamant hater!lolin all honesty though ive battered mine an ive put a nasty gouge in the downtube so im looking into something new.....and low!i thought about the pure to mellow my riding out a bit.ali hit the nail on the head,backwheeling everything in sight aint competition riding.ive got vids on the forum of me riding mine.take a look.another factor is how long youve been riding low bikes for,youll get used to a a1 but it may take a while.you can get used to anything you put your mind to.i think the new or 06 control or the 06 pure are no frills bike.its a nice change from all the bendy toptubes etc imo.craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I can put some pictures up of my newly built Pure if you'd like? See how lush she looks The Pure rides really nice and i reckon you would like it. I was going to get the A2 but im glad i didnt now...i love my Pure lol!High BB bikes are ok, but i think going from the old school Giant you would be better with something a bit lower. Plus, like Ali said, theres more to trials than back wheel control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsalot Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 pics pics pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted October 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 hell yeh post some pics. im swinging more to the pure now. ill probably save and get the complete bike though. theres not much worth saving from the giant. did you swap all your parts from the giant to the pure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 is there a prolem with high BB bikes in comps? because i do intend on doing some. would the pure be a good bike for comps? Well, in my Adamant there is so much ground clearance that I can ride up a wall without touching any part of the bike. Imagine what happens on a comp when you try to do ie. a gap to front wheel. You do the gap, land on the object but the bike starts sliding off backwards. You don't stop on the rockring, you fall right back. And believe me, with a 372mm chainstay you won't even stop on your cranks in most occasions. It's something one can get used to but that's a great disadvantage in comps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted October 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 yeh i get what you are saying. the adamant is starting to sound like a bad plan. i think its gotta be the pure thanks for all the help.I can put some pictures up of my newly built Pure if you'd like? See how lush she looks pics please!!!!!and pics of your old giant if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saracen Kid Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 The A2 is made of a different material because it is a competition bike some would say it’s slightly stronger but apart from a few cosmetic differences it’s just the material that the bikes are made from so that effects the weight the a2 is slightly lighter apparentlyso the a2 for comp and a1 for streethell yeh post some pics. im swinging more to the pure now. ill probably save and get the complete bike though. theres not much worth saving from the giant. did you swap all your parts from the giant to the pure?yeh i get what you are saying. the adamant is starting to sound like a bad plan. i think its gotta be the pure thanks for all the help.pics please!!!!!and pics of your old giant if you can.nooooooooooooooo go for the adamant cos i am ,the pures top tube is a bit high (less body clearence!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Pics are on the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Finally! Pictures of my Pure Please excuse the mud and the crappy front wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted October 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 that is lush. you got any pics of your old giant? have you swapped any of the giant parts to the pure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akmon Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 The main differences areweight a1 weights 1.9 kg & a2 weights 2.1 kgChainstay length A1 has 372 mm while A2 has 385 mmand of course colours...that are the main differencs between this frames!!!But if not to count this difference we can say that this frames are the same!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 that is lush. you got any pics of your old giant? have you swapped any of the giant parts to the pure?Sorry mate i havent got any pics of my giant. Most of the parts on my Pure are new. The only things from the giant are the cranks (which are totally screwed now), the bars (getting new bars and stem though when i have some money), and the front wheel (which will be replaced also when i get my hope hub). I was going to use the parts from my giant but i thought i'd splash out and get my ride as nice as i could.Anymore questions, feel free to ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted October 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 oh well cheers anyway mate. looking at my finances, i cant really afford the adamants. but the pure is just about in my price range. i also found the 24seven Holroyd. on www.24sevenbikes.com i know some one who lives close to me so i can have a test ride. have a look and see what you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 oh well cheers anyway mate. looking at my finances, i cant really afford the adamants. but the pure is just about in my price range. i also found the 24seven Holroyd. on www.24sevenbikes.com i know some one who lives close to me so i can have a test ride. have a look and see what you thinkI have had a ride on the Holroyd bike (the complete build thats on the website), one of my brothers mates has it, and to be perfectly honest it rode like a really heavy shit! Thats just my personal opinion though.lol sorry that reply was quite blunt now i read it back.Have a bash on the 24/7 see what you think. I really didn't like the feel of it though, the front end of the bike is ridiculously heavy and everything you do feels really slugish. Again thats just my personal opinion. Where abouts do you live by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted October 21, 2006 Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 The holroyd gets alot of people saying there really heavy feeling, I tryed riding one a bit ago and it felt fine really. I think alot of the problem is that it comes with a 18-12t gearing, when most people would rather run something like 18-15t. Also they come with a Huge rear rim on the front of them for some reason, like larger than I'd like to have on the back. The one I rode had had the gearing changed to a 15t i think, and it felt ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted October 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2006 Where abouts do you live by the way?i live in a little village called ipplepen not to far from newton abbot in south devon. i ride in plymouth quite a bit and with it being half term this week im sure i will be there quite a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted October 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 I have had a ride on the Holroyd bike (the complete build thats on the website), one of my brothers mates has it, and to be perfectly honest it rode like a really heavy shit! Thats just my personal opinion though.lol sorry that reply was quite blunt now i read it back.Have a bash on the 24/7 see what you think. I really didn't like the feel of it though, the front end of the bike is ridiculously heavy and everything you do feels really slugish. Again thats just my personal opinion. i rode one on saturday. it was a very nice ride. it likes being on the back wheel, thats for sure. the one i rode had been modified a bit though. but i think im goin to go for one of these holroyd bikes. cheap, nice ride and looks nice 2!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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