well im sure ill get abuse for it, with joemaher loving his, some people will enquire as to why i said that it could be the frame. BUT, the geometry wont suit everyone, and it may be the frame that doesnt suit you rather than a specific part. however i am very partial to a certain bar and stem set up (or at least geometry of stem etc), however i do know that some frames just dont suit me. (basically anything shorter than 1080 or anythin with less than 20mm bb rise) i just cant adapt to, no mattter what the set up