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Hey Steve- bike looks sweet! Is that a wedgebodge I spy?! Will have to hook up for a ride sometime- don't suppose you're out in Soton tomorrow? Dave

Yup. Hated them. Have I said that I hate macs? 'Cos I do.

Phone a powder coaters and ask?... From experience you're probably looking at £25-£30.

Well I basically haven't been able to use one for more than a few minutes without wanting to throw it through the nearest window so can't really compare much else. They just seem really 'gimmicky' even the OS with it's flowy futuristic way of working is just for show and doesn't help anything except probably to slow the computer down using silly graphic-heavy stuff. Even things like the 'heartbeat' when you turn off the 'G' whatevers just seems totally pointless to me.

I just don't like Macs. I'd go as far as saying I hate them. No real reason, they just make me angry to use and seem to spend far more time/money making them look... different (Note: not nice) than making them work any better than anything else out there. No right click winds me up something chronic. 'Oh but you can just use the apple key or buy a different mouse' I hear you cry... why the hell should I have to? Just supply the damn thing with a two button mouse to begin with! As I said, apple make me angry. Give me a nice, simple and intuitive to use PC any day of the week.

Reckon I'm gonna ride Soton on Sunday so going to give tomorrow a miss. Sorry guys!

Manual up rail... whaaaat?!

Maserati Tipo of some sort?

All that's left is for Mr Mackey to say... Mm'kay.

I haven't said 'wobble' once. Or 'mangled'. I simply stated that the BB was likely to stretch the crank spline and cause creaking. That's not wobble, or dangerous, or even a problem really- just a niggle. Tim you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole that was never a hole to start with.

It may not be broke but (most of your bike) is pretty much falling apart and dangerous!! Take some pride in your bike and show it some lurve!

You're a sham of a mockery of a mockery of a sham Mitch!!

Oh dear. Everyone knows Humpty Dumpty was a 17th century tank/cannon. Rubbish Humpty Dumpty topic? Done. [/Gordon Ramsey voice]

How's the front brake? Still got our teeth I presume?!

I'm split between this one: And this one:

There was no hint at any kind of accelerated failure of anything. The worst that could happen (as discussed earlier) is saggy crank splines leading to creaking. Pretty sure there is no way what's been described could cause any kind of reduction in strength or longevity. My issues have been with aluminium stopper rings which tend to crush (as discussed earlier) and deform which for one means the crank spline becomes damaged leading to creaking but also means that you often can't get the BB tool over the deformed ring which just annoys me. My question with the Moe BB was brought about because of the picture that you posted caught my attention because firstly the stopper ring's aluminium and also that the stopper ring wouldn't stop the deformation of the crank spline even when new.

Tim, there's only one person here who's marketing anything...

Which quickly becomes an issue the second you try and put your now saggy cranks on a new BB and they creak like buggery. For something that would be so easy to avoid at the design stage. Ah well.

Yup . Can I quickly ask why, in the above picture, does the stopper ring (or crank-stop) not extend into the flute of the spline at all? I thought the ISIS standard accommodated for this by ensuring that the ring goes about half way along the radiused end section of the flute. From the looks of the Moe BB it will royally rape your cranks the first time you put them on making them as saggy as a saggy thing. Figure 1

All looks pretty good, the only thing I'd question is the rear hub (strength of freehub and engagements). Apart from that the only other thing I can see is that you'll need a shim to use the Macneil post in the Inspired frame. I *think* I may have one in the garage though if you get stuck.

That may be the case on the face of things but Trialtech have improved on the other available BB's by providing both steel rings instead of the gash aluminium ones and also the option of a thicker (stronger) axle at no extra cost. Win, win.

Bit extreme... even when cogs have dug in like crazy, a bit of shock tactics with a hammer has always worked for me...

Guessing you'll need a chain whip and cassette tool. hold freehub still with the whip and unscrew the cassette lockring. Everything will then just slide off.

Oh dear...

Haha, my thinking was just that if the were cut from plate you'd be able to arrange the parts to be cut in such a way to minimise the wasted material (which will still be able to be melted down and recycled of course but it won't be the Bionic factory who see the benefits of what can be recycled but rather how much waste they leave) while allowing you to make maybe 100 dropouts from one sheet at a time, whereas using individual billets and taking the time to individually CNC them as they appear to have done just seems daft. If you're going to CNC a component you may as well make some nice little lightening pockets or whatever in it. As it is the finished product look like the dropouts have just been cut from plate anyway so why bother CNCing in the first place? Meh.