Duncy H

Ooooh I do like a loud brake but like said before they are a bit harder so wont they not hold as well? I'm not too bothered about ware rate so long as its not stupid. Edit for new post: I'd be taking the croco pads out of their plastic backings if i got them so I could put the in my phat pad backings.

Right I have really had enough with them now. I've just come back in form trying all sorts of setups, I rebled the brake, tryed with and without the booster, cleaned the rim and pads, fresh medium grind and they just won't hold. From taking the booster off there was a massive difference, loads more noise but the hold was so shocking, just not locking upfrom riding along. I think i'm going to order myself the croco pads in yellow from tarty, can anyone back me up or advise me on any others which will give maximum performance in the dry on a medium grind? Also I just experimented with getting some old pads out of their backings using the oven. Will it not change the properties of the pads with this extreme heat?

Well I recently fitted my bike with a booster and the difference was great and helps your frame survive longer, although this still didn't work for me with these pads. I also have rather a pimped up brake and all the little bits make a difference.

That is a good point although if you look at the video of me at stanage edge in the video section you can really see me struggle with them, also could there be any way that the same type of material can vary in performance? Edit: I didn't explain myself well then, say if you had two sets of material but the one bike setup and used them in exactly the same way could they differ?

Please don't think this is another topic about "what pads are the best?". I have had enough with the phat pad material I think as they just don't hold for me when you need them the most, I've tryed all sorts of things but I just cant get them to work for me. My first point is does anyone else think the same about them, I know ali c does and maybe a few others but the majority say they are amazing. Secondly, I'm not sure what to replace them with, I think I am going to get some try-all crocos but didn't know wether to get the browns or either yellow or red with their different properties. Thirdly, as I will be keeping the phat pad backings which I think are very impressive I need some help with swapping the material. If i get the crocos ill have to seperate them, how exactly do I do this, and will they just clip in like the phat pad material or do I need to glue them and if so what glue do you reccomend? And finally, how can you tell that your pads in your disc are burnt toast? (worn out lol) Any help is much appreciated.

Yeh to be honest I have never had the brake hold as good as people say phat pads do but the bite is rather good, might invest in some new material.

Looking good at the moment, if I were you I would invest in a nice set of vee pads, and like you say change the stem, bars and forks as these onza bits aren't so good.

There are loads of these and you missed out 24". But I rid mod!

Thanks for the comments, there is a video of me riding it today in the video section on here at stanage edge, I dont do much thanks to the broken wrist but you get to see it in action.

I really enjoyed it today its a shame you didn't as much as me, and before any of you lot ask that is a broken left wrist I have .

I liked it and street is so much better!

You could try giving it a fresh bleed in case any air has got in, double check that you have set it up nice and square and if that fails try sanding or filing the tops off the pads or cleaning your rim and pads with some sort of white spirit or along those lines.

Ive only just really started doing it properly, best way i can describe it is that it is like the normal way that you gap however you lean a lot more forward and pull the back end to the side or roll it straight on or do a wheel swap frenchy thing. Just keep practising it will come eventually.

What do you mean? Theres nothing wrong with it, I use to have an avid on a different bike but prefer the hope. Thanks for the comments!

What do you mean by brushing it? Do you press on hard? I ran it without a booster for ages but its been much better since I put the booster on.

I know you see a lot of these threads but I cant find exactly what I'm after from searching through. I can't get my brake to hold very well, or not enough for the way I ride. Anyway I think it is because of my grinding technique because it does not seem to be particulary sharp when I do it and goes blunt easily. brake spec: Echo team frame with built in booster, 08 magura zoo lever Phat pads Trialteh 2 bolt booster Tensile mounts Try all rim Now as I run phat pads ill need a deep harsh grind to get the best performance, but I cant get it. I have just a cheapo angle grinder from halfords with one of the thinner cutting discs. Could it be a bit worn or are there better ones? Any help would be much apreciated. Oh and if any of you have noticed ive said i have a broken wrist it should not effect it too much as i have a bit of flexibility.

I've only had mine a few days but ill give a big vote for the trialtech booster.

I'd like to see what option b would look like. Would be a bit different for a change.

Spec as requested: Echo team 07 short Echo lite forks Tensile headset Monty cranks Trialtech magnesium pedals Monty pr stem Try all rage bars 08 Try-all rims with paint stripped, rear hub trialtech, front hope pro 2 Hope mono mini 180mm front brake Rear 08 magura with zoo lever, metal tpa, trialtech booster, and the amazing phat pads Try-all tyres Its rather sweet now to ride and I am very pleased with it. Thanks for the comments keep them coming.

I've done rather a lot of updates since it was last up here, can get a spec if you want. Comments good and bad please.

I think i'll go with that one then thanks for the quick reply. Its a shame the built in boosters aren't so effective.

Nice clean shots! Love it

Looks sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttt!!!!!!!!!!

I'd like to bump this topic to see what people think, I too have an echo team 07 and am in need of a booster. I run phatpads with a nice harsh grind but it doesn't seem to hold well atm because I think of all the flex in my frame. I really like the look and weight of the trialtech 2 bolt booster because of its looks and weight but would it be enough? If not I think i would go with the tensile 4 bolt but what do you think?

I wish I had of gone today but I have exams and my dads away atm. Back to bikes what sort of price range you looking at? or year? I also will give a big vote for the sherco as thats what I have. I think because they are more torquey they are better for begginers and require less maintenance. Also the biggest regret I have is not getting involved in competitions early enough as i thought it was some big deal but you learn so much more from them and all the guys are there to help and friendly characters. EDIT: bou isn't allowed to crash he's too good and fuji so close but yet so far, looked rather painful