Hey there mate, I myself ride an Onza Bird, and I can definately recommend it over the Rip. It comes with a front disc (which is very bitey), instead of a vee, and it comes with Creepy Crawlers, which are much better tyres. Both of them are pretty heavy as they are beginner bikes, but both are very strong and nice to ride for the money. Go for the bird mate EDIT: Here is a picture of mine if you're wondering what they look like: Though I have modded mine a little bit.