You forget thought that these guys have been riding for a long time, and the riding scene was completey different. To me tgs seems like a cop out. It looks like you can't be bothered to do anything creative so stick to one wall and go one inch higher. In the same way i don't like freestyle football. Yes they can do tricks but if they were put in a real match would they be any good? yes theyd be good at the tricks bit and getting past people but is their shooting/passing defending up to scratch, in the same way would you be able to do a competition line. Maybe. Don't get me wrong tgs is impressive and no i can't get anywhere near as high as you, yet i enjoy my riding and i know you enjoy tgs which is what is important. But yes tgs is gay.