While reading this whole topic I have thought waynio to come across as a bit of a jerk, not meaning to offend you but I think your taking this all a little too far man. Every product is the same, provided they are well maintained and not exsessivly abused they will work, hope and king are exacly the same when you think, if its looked after and not totally wrecked it will work, simple. So whats the diff ?