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I'll agree to this

front disk offers proportional stopping as well as being to completely lock the wheel, with a rear brake, you want it to work like an on-off set up, if your going around town and you need to slow down your rear brake will be useless cause it'll waste your pad or tyres. rear disc is less popular cause people recon you can hit it + loose a days riding through a wonky rotor, but it's really unlikely + discs can take quite abit of abuse. plus most frames only offer rear maggy tabs. also trials puts forwards/backwards force on a wheel and discs are usually only good at slowing/stoping the forward direction. i can go on, but i think it's realy down to pimpness + being able to have a more practical brake when your commuting. £100 for brakes, probably stops you buying new unless you wanted to run vee brakes? levers £18 calipers £40 Vee daptors £40 plus brake cables, you could just do it for £100

you don't need to offer shipping and boxes, i'd already planned to take the frame to muel in person and give it a good send off ride somewhere different. i'd imagine theres a few people doing that? You've changed your plan, before it was personal respocibility to pass the frame on, i'd be more than happy to pay money to bring the frame into the uk, but not to ship it around.

what is the shipping cost, with insurance? you might wanna change the rules for how this frame is handled so if you break it, it's your[your meaning the rider] obligation to get it patched up. but $100, for something i don't get to keep is stupid.

I missed the big london ride + the christmas ride, and i'm sick of riding the same place, so anyone interested? school/uni/college folks, you should have a fortnight off while this ride is on, so no excuses

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i've wanted one of those since they were released, could you take a phot of the disc tabs? how much range of movement do you get? can you cover the hub being in the far end/closest point of the hub?

am i right in thinking theres going to be an insert for the dropouts? cause the axle space looks masive, floating rotor mounts ftmfw?!

in responce the the lack of dual disk riders. it's down to choice alot of the time, the very popular frames echo controls for instance don't have the mounts, and unless you run pro2s which have disk tabs as standard, you need specific hubs which cost more, so you're unlikely to spend an extra 10-15quid on the whim that you might go for a dual disc. i already had a pro2, then simtras were on offer otherwise i don't think i'd have bothered. rear disc is made of win though. middle aged man, your best buying brand new brakes, just for the sake of confidence. a standard HS33 with some good pads (koxx pads, or ideally coust-sinks are what i always ran) on the rear, and a bb7 on the front if you can run a disk, otherwise another magura will be fine.

they seem deathproof in my experiences, i'd choose an eno personnaly, because you can replace bits meaning if you manage to kill it (and no one, to my knowledge has munched one?) you could replace parts instead of the whole shebang

things to front wheel, that said i'm king at lurching and sidehops could do with learning to backwheel things again too

cobalt titanium 58g pwns the echo SL at 95g i'd still prefer the echo, just cause it'll live longer

there is a crank brothers one that weighs cheff all, but it'd get munched far to fast to validate the £ and grams, the echo one is mad light and plenty strong enough and the price is decent. winner...

this post of raw pwn?

yay, will the uk be receiving it's own frame? whats the release date (roughly)

pennies on the bb axle

dibs on the sloppies...

do you really need a 203 on the front i'm a tank and 185 is moar than enough for me. means my forks don't get munched as fast either

mod one would be the koxx do it with the echo + see if the full build is lighter than the sky full build?

i ride on my own if i have to, usually just see how far i can gap + such wit pallets. prefer people just so i can watch when im knackered and get pushed when i'm trying.

there actually tank rims atoms lite rim would be better imo not as light but double walled

why's everyone thinking it'd die? i don't like the bars, other than that

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cracks and dints at the rear end of the bike won't put you at risk as much as damage to the front of the frame, don't worry about it

these or these your best buying 5 and then selling a couple off to mates and saving a few spare. plus postage is free on CRC the nokians are lighter (and cheaper) but the maxxis tubes are prety much invincible