--> QUOTE(joe b @ Jun 17 2006, 07:29 PM) ←Your joking, right? Monty have got to be the second most stupidly-expensive bike brand, ever! Leading the way, in my opinion, is Koxx. The release of the XTP-R (and it's pricetag) helped me to make this decision! But, yeah, the Monty does look really nice. Look's a lot lower for more clearance. I hope they don't change the geometry to much as i think they are perfect as they are... But, unfortunately trials is evolving, fast. And i'm stuck in the past. Oh, i'm a poet ^ . Cheers, Joe. Also the weakest. 6 Crank arms Snapped, 3 cracks in my frame in the course of 4 months? i personally hate the frame, i also told myself a Monty without that little spiderweb design at the rear end of the top tube would make the frame look stupidly shit if it wasnt there, and Monty have just gone and done it too it away. I very much doubt this is the new Monty Ti anyways. Despite that Dani and Cesar also had long Montys anyways, it looks more like a PR than a Ti. You will find alot of frames now are having Shorter chainstays so hopefully Monty will stick them out! and For the love of God put some Magura mounts on them.