Mark W

Seems pretty slinky. You do realise that you have to now be known as "Doctor Brown Love"?

Wow, a rockin' 2.85kb/sec on 570kb/sec broadband. Ah, takes me back to my ol' 56K days...

Someone click the link? :D Nah, anyway, Jon's right. It's simply a defining feature. If you choose to stone someone 'cos of it, you're acting on the information you have to act in a certain way. Totally ignoring it could be seen by people to be rude to, because people do have a pride in their history, e.g. black people over-coming prejudice and opression.

Exactly right there (Mink, that is. Way to screw the order, Tom-ola...). The police use "IC1 male" or whatever because it's bloody obvious! D'you want them to go "The suspect is...well...he's male, and he's wearing clothes." Should we stop even seeing it as male and female seeing as that's another division? It just seems a bit shit saying "We should stop seeing it". Different cultural heritages have made the world a better place, so denying it just so you can make big happy clappy statements seems a bit shitty/not thought out? The only thing we need to change is how people act when they differentiate between people. Notice the colour of people's skin, but not want to set fire to them for it? Just seeing people's skin colour doesn't mean you're racist. It's an observation. Simply that. It's just information. How you act upon that information is the deciding point.

275 views on this thread, so that means a potential 275 hits to Koxx.fr. This increase in activity's probably gonna mean their web designer's all: [French stereotype]"Wahey, ze new site is working. Ze Englishers are flooding een. Ho he ho he ho."[/French stereotype]

So you want to revert back to straight seat and chain stays, and run straight blade forks? And proper flat bars? There's a lot of good to be said for curved tubing, it's just that there isn't for that particular frame :turned:\

Maybe in Koxx HQ it was like "Hmm, people keep doing bikes wiht the seat-tubes curving forwards and up like the Coust frames. What can we do to be different...hmm...I'm thinking - curved tubing... but where..."

Who the f**k thought it'd be a good idea to put everything at an angle? It's "quirky", but damn annoying... But yeah, new Koxx site. Cream cream cream. Mark. www.koxx.fr

That noise cracks me up every time. Was trying to find a vid on T-S to download, and saw that and downloaded it before it was on here, so was a bit strange seeing this thread. Anyhoo, yeah, way good hopping. I dig the sidehop to logs though; that's just so freakin' accurate.

Cheers for the pics! Some of the sections look pretty similar to last year. Next World Indoor in the U.K.'s gonna be in January '06, but there should be some WTC Outdoor rounds either in Ireland or in the U.K. at some stage this year? So is Lampkin so low in the ranking's 'cos he's riding a new bike then? Are the 4-strokes actually much better or not? I'm well out of the WTC loop!

Who won then?

I think you missed my point. There are people who dig short bikes, but there are also certain members who wank over shorter bikes purely because their 'favourite' riders do, and of course, becasue everyone loves to go against the seeming majority...

It does, when you're riding. Otherwise, why would they dick about with geometry so much? The change from '02 T-Pro to '04 T-Pro wasn't theoretically much, but it felt f**king massive. The change from a 20" TT BMX to a 20.5" TT BMX felt massive too and made a big difference. And wheelbase is bloody important when you're choosing a bike. I thought this shit was insanely obvious, but I'll explain it in simple terms for people who don't like to understand things: I am 6ft 2in. I ride mod. I used to ride a short mod. I felt cramped on it. I bought a longer mod. Ta da! I chose one with a longer wheelbase. f**kin' shocker, that. People who aren't ultra tall might go for a Levelboss 1040 or something, people who are taller and therefore can deal with the length can go for the 1065 or 1100, which is why Koxx made different lengths of their bikes. How very convenient! *sigh* :) Now before the "I like riding a short bike so I'm not classed as 'trendy'" come wading in with their twattish blanket comments that mean f**k all - just getting a longer wheelbase won't make you a better rider. It feels a bit easier to backwheel (in mine, and a lot of other people's experiences) and do "pure" sorta trials - including natural, where a more stable, longer wheelbase is a huge help - on a longer bike for me, but then again there was that guy on here who was shorter than some shits that I've done who bought a LB1065. As opposed to making him some trials demigod, it was shit 'cos it was too long. Just buying a 1200mm+ wheelbase bike won't make you great, but again, that's bloody obvious.

That's the whole point, chavs are just wannabes. Just talentless dickheads who can't actually do anything on their own, so have to go around in groups and try and emulate people 'cos they can't actually form their own opinions, etc. They want to be gangstaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas, but aren't. It's funny watching the slow process where they find that out.

Shit me! Are they bent? :D My Pro's 1025mm with some ancient Onza alu forks on it...

Can, and have (Y) Yeah, when you've got the media pumping the idea that it's cool to be a rudeboy gangsta from the "ghetto"*, then it's not going to be good. You could argue that the media is just colourful pictures, but notice how the fashion trends of chav scum tend to exactly mirror those of Eminem/50 Cent/Ali G (which is ironic, seeing as he's taking the piss out of chavs, but they reckon he's their God?). Meh, either way, it's still shit that people think they have the right to beat people up whenever and wherever they want. Random Stranger Assaults (where chavs just go up and beat shit into whoever they see) are still on the up, which is nice... Mark. *By which most "rap stars" seem to mean a well off, middle class background? They're full of contradictions, e.g. 50 Cent singing "E'rybody in the club gettin tipsy" - apart from you, you Tee-Totaller :S If someone's shot you 9 times, doesn't that suggest you're a wanker? Much like constantly changing your TF username *cough*

Does that mean I rock for nearly taking out Volvo S70's on the way home from work? My bad, Mr. Yuppie.

I don't usually like to be too blunt in posts, but this is getting silly. It's just 'kin trials, isn't it? In the same way diarrhoea is poo, so is a savagely dry crispy turd. It's a different style, and requires a different technique for delivery (and clean-up), but it's still poop, so why the differentiation? To all the people who are saying "Yay, let's all unite. It's such a pissant small sport anyway we should love each other", why not just stop pointing out the divide anyway? Why try and define what we all know? See where I'm getting at? McEDIT: "Its like a BMX rider in a skate park, just riding the vert ramp, and abusing all the park riders around him for not riding real bmx, as thats what he defines as real." I'm not poo-talking this post specifically, but it seems a hell of a lot of the time here, people are criticising rider's attitudes as opposed to the actual differentiation of the disciplines? People have been, can be, and will in the future be dicks, so...er...I've forgotten where I'm going. Wicciky wicciky, beat box yo'.

Saying that though, Chav'ism isn't relegated to purely "lower"/"working" class people. I know plenty of people round here who have well-to-do parents, who are given all that they want and are still chav, rude little bastards who just go round punching people. I know plenty of people here who live in your average sorta two-parent household who are again chav wankers. It has as much to do with a child's decisions as just their parents. Someone I'm friends with here has a Mum who does her best for him and helps him all the time (Be it money, taking him places, buying him stuff, whatever) and he's had a very safe, stable upbringing, and he's just being a complete dickhead a lot of the time now. Equally, most chav scum are around adolescent age, so they're going to be doing the whole "rebellious" thing. Also, the media is now perpetrating that it's OK or 'cool' to be chav. Plus the fact the judicial system is stacked in favour of whoever is the person being accused of assault/whatever means that it's free reign for them. I'm in upper sixth form at our high school, and the year sevens are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay ruder than we ever were (that's not just me saying that - it's parents, teachers, other pupils, etc.), and they're just little shits, yet I doubt that in 6 years, parents in the same area are going to have become a hell of a lot worse at doing their jobs? I think that although a bad background doesn't help, people still have a choice. We could talk for days on here, making up stereotypical case-study-style things on people's lives, but at the end of the day, it's all meaningless. We all choose what we want to do. People who have shitty backgrounds can go on to do really well, it's all whether you choose to or not. The choice can be loaded to one side more than the other, but it really, really pisses me off when my friend's just been kicked in and the school say "Oh, but look, he's from a single-parent family" - so f**king what? My Mum and Dad divorced in 1996. I don't go round punching people in the face. We're not super well off or anything. My Mum's a teacher, and also works part time in a call centre. We get by. I wouldn't say we were middle class, but I wouldn't say we were council-estate-chav-stylee class or whatever. It's just f**king annoying when people try to defend the behaviour of the pieces of crap who go around causing trouble and explain it all away with "But look at his background". Some kid here's been sent to prison for the second time recently for trying to cut someone open with a meat cleaver in a busy pub. Every time he's about to go to court, he has a social worker speak to him, and he cries and blames it on his parents. Having spoken to his friends, this is all a front. His parents did split up and so on, but he knows how to play the system. He's not even all that intelligent, it's just that people all have a survival instinct so if they find a loophole to get out of trouble for something they'll exploit it. Mark.

Right. Chavs/Townies/whatever are in every town. They're shit everywhere. Whatever bad experiences you've had, we've probably all had pretty similar ones. Therefore, you don't need to post about townie scum and how gay they are or however you want to phrase it, unless it's genuinely funny and/or interesting (that doesn't mean the punchline is "And then I said f**k off."). There are quite a few threads about chav/police related matters in NMC all the time, and there are generally a few on here, and it'd just be way better to not have to have them here. Mark.