TrialsGilly Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I am looking for a second hand wheel on the forum, but think I might treat myself to a Brand New one off Tarty if nothing comes up soon!!!Never bought a new wheel off Tarty before, just looking for some advice really on what they are like at building them??? Or where the best place is to get a wheel build???Cheers Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Adam's pretty much best in the business. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusevelt Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Well id be very surprised to find one negative comment on Tarty wheel builds. certainly on par with Chain reaction cycles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zzy Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 mate had a wheel build off there still solid till this faithfull day and hes a big boy lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 i bought my front wheel (hope mono on mavic 519) over 3 years ago, second hand from john evans who'd had it god knows how long...i've never trued it, spokes are tensioned soooo well, and it is sooooo true its mad...but hey, he might'v lost the knack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 i bought my front wheel (hope mono on mavic 519) over 3 years ago, second hand from john evans who'd had it god knows how long...i've never trued it, spokes are tensioned soooo well, and it is sooooo true its mad...but hey, he might'v lost the knack?So who built that wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 tartridge...! back in day like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 My rim split, dented and cracked before it needed trued. Tarty is a LegEnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 mate had a wheel build off there still solid till this faithfull day and hes a big boy lol.Nathan! (he's like 20 stone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 tartridge...! back in day like...Cool. I thought that's who you meant but couldn't tell if it was John Evans who built it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Well id be very surprised to find one negative comment on Tarty wheel builds. certainly on par with Chain reaction cycles.ha ha ha ha ha ha ha good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Adam built my 7th hand 1997 Mavic CD onto a Hope and after 2 years in my hands, still as true as it ever was and I've not touched it at all.Would whole heartedly recommend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf the Yellow Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 its great, i mine was a year and 4 months old when i stopped riding it, and thats because i went modstock.needed usual trials maintenance, so tensioning and truing it a bit, but other than that it was great. though i'm sure it would have been a mega good build if it was a mavic rim instead of shitting tryalls and won't need any truing at all!steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 My mate bought Pro 2 front and back on echo rims, never caused any problems at all, top notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 The wheels I got on my bike from Tarty are the first set of wheels I've bought mail order that I haven't needed to disassemble and build properly myself. They even lined the hub logo up with the valve hole, which is unnecessary, but I always build mine that way ... I stress relieved the wheels when I got them (4 months ago) and have done no trueing yet. The wheels are now slightly off true, but not even to the degree that it affects the Maguras yet... I'm about 14-15 stone and not the smoothest rider on the planet, though I don't usually do for wheels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 you have to watch out though...i heard the guys at tarty like to sabotage peoples packages.as an example, i had TRAVIS lyrics written all over my two previous packages from themDISGUSTING BEHAVIOR I SAY.Superb wheel builder though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 This topic's a bit one-sided. Just to add some balance to all these amazing reviews - My back wheel is bent all over the shop. But I made it, maybe that's why... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha good one.Actually, CRC have a pretty good reputation for building wheels these days. But they must have several people on the job so it must be pot luck whether you actually get a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 My wheels are running fine, only had them since Feb though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyseemonkeydo Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I got some wheels built 'back in the day' by CRC and didn't have any major problems with them I don't think... although they were Sun Mammoth rims so pretty damn burly to begin with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 It's all down to the spokes in my opinion. A good wheelbuilder helps but if you haven't got decent spokes that wheel won't last. I'd say Tarty are no better at building wheels than Alan's. But the Alans wheelbuilder probably has a whole lot more experience than who ever does the Tarty ones. I did have a wheel built by Tarty a few years ago and it was a good job, i think i might have paid the extra bit on top? But i did see a pair of wheels on a guys bike in Bristol, they actually had hardly any tension at all. If it were a Try-All rim i'm pretty sure it would of folded. It's easily an arguable topic so i'll stop there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Most long term wheel durability issues are down to whether the wheel is stress relieved or not after it has been tensioned. Two wheels built from the same parts with the same lacing and the same spoke tension will show massively different rates of spoke failure if one is stress relieved and the other isn't. Modern manufacturing techniques have made material quality much higher, so even badly built wheels with good spokes in particular can last pretty well... If the spokes are obviously slack or the wheels fail through overloading rather than fatigue, you're dealing with a whole other problem of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Gibson Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 On my rear wheel there was at least 5 fairly loose spokes, yet the wheel was still relatively true. Im not the smoothest of riders and the rim still held up. Not the spokes are tight, true to about 1mm movment each way. so im happy. Front wheel that I built was shocking. wheel was true and everything, spokes were very tight. flexed like a bitch though, Got a new front wheel spokes are tight, not as tight as the one I built, and no wheel flex. Maybe a little. WHat going on there? F*ck nose!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 The stiffness of the rim will cover a lot of the shortcomings in spoke tension. If there are loose spokes then the wheel could be stronger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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