Luke Williams! Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) i'm struggling with the whole geo of my GU typhoon 06 for tapping, its 50 + bb rise i think anyone got any help ona different technique i can use to cope with it i have tried reading TRA's tapping method page and it still bewilders me :\or is it the frame itself is just too high a bb rise for decent tapping ? although i have noticed the koxx sky is +55 or something daft and vince etc seem to be able to tap theres fine lol :|Luke Edited August 7, 2009 by Luke Williams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Manning Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 You do have a slight problem with trying to tap on that frame. The frame's bb rise is very high which is great for sidehops, but for taps it's a little too high. This isn't to say you can't tap your bike high, it just means you may find it harder than on a bike with a lower bb rise.I recommend hitting your front wheel into the wall lower than you normally would, this should help you drive the bike up so you can get your rear wheel to the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Williams! Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 You do have a slight problem with trying to tap on that frame. The frame's bb rise is very high which is great for sidehops, but for taps it's a little too high. This isn't to say you can't tap your bike high, it just means you may find it harder than on a bike with a lower bb rise.I recommend hitting your front wheel into the wall lower than you normally would, this should help you drive the bike up so you can get your rear wheel to the top.Thanks alot i'll give that a shot i do agree it is nicer to sidehop but i've alwasy been the tapping sort Thanks again for your help Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmks88 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 yeah its a bit different but when you get the feeling there isnt much differencejust try to hit a bit lower and it can take some time to learn it, depends how often you ride, but usually it takes some weeks to get it constantly working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 lower bb bikes are easier to tap. its simple. not sure why, just the geo makes it more chuckable in the tap theory.so you need to apply a suitable set up in order to make your bike feel like a lower bb bike.your best bet is to get a higher bar / stem set up. You will notice this on the big boys bikes (vinny, gilly, kenny), however you need to find the right comprimise so that you still have the benefits of a high bb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 lower bb bikes are easier to tap. its simple. not sure why, just the geo makes it more chuckable in the tap theory.Always felt to me like with a lower BB, you're more balanced over both wheels (Whereas higher BB makes it feel more biased to front wheel stuff, like you're up higher over the front of the bike), so you can sort of push up and into the tap better? More of a smooth upwards motion rather than having to force the tap. Can't really describe it too well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Always felt to me like with a lower BB, you're more balanced over both wheels (Whereas higher BB makes it feel more biased to front wheel stuff, like you're up higher over the front of the bike), so you can sort of push up and into the tap better? More of a smooth upwards motion rather than having to force the tap. Can't really describe it too well its ok mark ill let you off cos your bmx. and your old school.(however i will admit that you wrote what i was thinking - but couldnt explain).so to re-iterate. try a higher stem and bar combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Williams! Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 i am running the trial tech bar and stem combo. so its pretty high i suppose i get what your saying i bet my technique is abit off :\ but i get what you mean! i think its the overall stand over point i am much furhter over the bike giving me less room to manouvere in the tap and pull the bike up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Im running a coust v2....and thats +40i can tap that fairly well...like 42" max, although on my mates +25 control its definitely far easier.Higher bar and stem might be worth a try? im cahnging mysetup tomorrow to have a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben John-Hynes Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I've just moved from a +55 BB to a +25. The high bb one tapped well 'cause it was really long, too. But I found that you need to start the tap later and hit it lower. But now I'm riding lower BB my taps are much better with better style and more height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cai Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 i have tried reading TRA's tapping method pageWhere might I find this page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Dark Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Where might I find this page?Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 i rode an 06 control long (+10) for ages, bought an 07 gu (+60), taps were similar height but less consistant from the start. then it just got shitter and shitter till i was struggling with 45" taps . built the control back up and wrey were flying again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Williams! Posted August 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 i rode an 06 control long (+10) for ages, bought an 07 gu (+60), taps were similar height but less consistant from the start. then it just got shitter and shitter till i was struggling with 45" taps . built the control back up and wrey were flying againye but dont you find it harder to perform the other moves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdonboy Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 maybe be a good idea to hit the wall abit faster or with more acceleration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 All a higher BB does is give you a bit of a hand for doing stuff to front, and even then it's not drastically different. I found it easier adjusting to do stuff to front on lower BB setups rather than finding riding it in general being weird on a higher BB frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 All a higher BB does is give you a bit of a hand for doing stuff to front, and even then it's not drastically different. I found it easier adjusting to do stuff to front on lower BB setups rather than finding riding it in general being weird on a higher BB frame.i whole heartedly agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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