Mw3

[Luke Dunstan]

Quick scopers are infuriating, but it is definitely a technique that takes a while to learn.

And the new perk where people can move faster while ADS is soooo lame, my all time hate above noob tubes and drop shooters is strafing shooters, it was like tin can ally at some points last night.

Make sure you go in to the prestige shop because every other COD (post MW1) where you have prestiged you get an unlock, I used 2 hours double XP and 2 hours double weapon XP. SCAR-L now level 28 (32 needed for gold camo)

THis game has so much to unlock, and as soon as some DLC is released with some MW1 maps it will be amazing.

Just been playing BF3 online. It's absolutely huge and I find a lot of the time I'll be running around like an idiot with no clue. But I had one reasonably good game where it all seemed to make sense. Practice...

You definitely have to think about what your doing, picking the right time to shoot and when to hold off is key.

It's such a different game, and it winds me up when people compare the 2 games when they are so different.

[Dwarf Shortage]

I reckon Cod4 was the best when it came out in like 2007.

This.

Promised myself I wouldn't buy MW3 after how disappointing Black Ops was, pretty glad I didn't although some bits of it are pretty sick. Played some 'survival' at my mate's last night which was decent enough, and some split-screen online on 'Kill Confirmed' which wasn't too bad either.

Watched my mate play some TDM, he's literally amazing at quick scopes/no scopes, just sat watching him in disbelief at how much he was raping on the smallest map with a bolt action, after every couple of games he'll get a message saying either 'sh1t bro ur 2 gud!' or 'FUK OFF with UR FUKIN NOSCOPS NOOB fanny!', so anyone that was overly aggressive I got him to join their session in progress and follow them around constantly quick scoping them haha, glorious hate mail ensued!

[club_card]

What's "quick scopers"?

[crashbanggg]

Where's the cheapest place to get this for Xbox?

[Luke Dunstan]

What's "quick scopers"?

"A person who quick scopes will use a sniper rifle, but instead of aiming down the scope like sniper riffles were made for, they exploit a feature and shoot when the cross hairs meet, resulting in a one hit kill, despite the fact a majority of the time the cross hairs miss the target."

Urban Dictionary

[Ali C]

playing it now, seems alright.

[chrishayton]

I've had the last few CODs and decided a change was worth trying, so I've bought BF3 instead. So far it feels different enough that it's a bit alien and I can't quite get into it. Looking forward to getting the hang of it a bit, and seeing if the multiplayer is up to the hype. On the other hand I'm sure I could just jump into COD MW3 and feel right at home. I'm sort of regretting not going for that. Time will tell.

Xbox tom? whats your gamer ID. I bought this the other day and be nice to have people I know to play with/against.

[Tomm]

Yeah cool. I'm Fluid609 on Xbox Live.

[eskimo]

Apologies for bumping this

It's almost winter. Still 10* plus!

Feel like some FPS action. Sold all mine 'cept Reach. COD is easy fun, and i remember MW2 was fun despite issues which they developers seem to never remove from the game.

So ignoring these style of comments:

I dont get it

People know the game is bad

People buy the game nevertheless

People complain about the quality

People will do the same next year

So actually they complain about themselves *shakes the head*

The majority of the things you say you dislike about the game were present in every single previous Call of Duty title. Did you really think it would change the fifth time around?

Is this as fun as MW2?

I've not played COD / xbox since the snow. MW2 was full of hacks/ mods when i left, and before MW3 goes the same, i gota get in there quick. Black Ops somehow did feel a step down for me in the way of weaponry. So can i expect to have as much fun and annoyances from MW3 as i did MW2, especially seeing as i've not touched it in a lonng time?

[Jake.]

Not sure if I should have got this ps3 or not now............. -.-

[Ali C]

I quite enjoy two player split screen survival, that's f**king teeeam woooork!

[stoozie]

I quite enjoy two player split screen survival, that's f**king teeeam woooork!

I started playing that the other night, it's so much fun! Do you play on Xbox or PS3?

[Ali C]

ps3

[Luke Dunstan]

I quite enjoy two player split screen survival, that's f**king teeeam woooork!

I Wish you could play with 4 people instead of 2. Still ruddy good fun though.

[trials owns]

Sorry to be a scab but, Could anyone chuck me there 2 day xbox live code that came with it? Really wonna play this online

[crashbanggg]

Sorry to be a scab but, Could anyone chuck me there 2 day xbox live code that came with it? Really wonna play this online

If you make a new Xbox live account you get a months free live...?

[trials owns]

If you make a new Xbox live account you get a months free live...?

yup, done that to like 4 accounts now . ran out of email addresses now lol

[Luke Dunstan]

yup, done that to like 4 accounts now . ran out of email addresses now lol

There is 4 days free gold coming up for everyone.

EDIT: Just for the USA for thanksgiving I guess.

EDIT II: I may have a 24 hour one, if I can be bothered and remember tonight you might receive a PM.

Edited November 25, 2011 by Luke Dunstan

[trials owns]

cheers man, appreciated

[totaltrials]

Had another blast just now and I had some thoughts. I really wish they would take out quick scoping, some people are just too good at it and make it so you can't shoot and lie down at the same time (drop shots they call them?). The people that "drop shot" are the most annoying. Even more annoying then people who camp or just use grenade launchers all the time. Does anyone agree?

Stop moaning about people quick scoping and drop shots. It's part of the game and part of the skill. It's annoying because you can't deal with it. Why don't you learn how to use them and add it to your game and learn how to combat it.

[Mikee]

Stop moaning about people quick scoping and drop shots. It's part of the game and part of the skill. It's annoying because you can't deal with it. Why don't you learn how to use them and add it to your game and learn how to combat it.

You are one of them aren't you.... I can deal with them (drop shooters are easier to deal with though then a good quickscoper). I don't think it is a skill any more on this game. With the quickdraw perk and that other one that makes you move faster while scoping in, it has made quickscoping so easy. I tried it out for a few games, I never snipe and have never quickscoped before and I did about 30-18 K/D on my first try. I think they have made it too easy compared to previous COD were quickscoping was abit tricky to master.

I think both quickscoping and drop shooting are just cheap tricks for people who just want easy kills so they can get their killstreak rewards and a good K/D.

Just for you though I have some more moaning.

The type 95 and dual FMG9 (which everyone is using at the moment) is way overpowered. It's like play hardcore modes when you run into those. There are some other overpowered guns but they are the worst.

The spawn system seems to be really shite on it. I seem to get spawn killed all the time, even on game modes where their aren't fixed spawn sides. I had a slight problem with this on MW2 but MW3 is miles worse for this.

Stealth bomber shouldn't be in the support streaks. I have seen loads of people (including myself) whiping out the whole team with ease with them. I think there shouldn't be any killing rewards in the support streaks as it makes it too easy.

And on a personal note, this is the COD with the most amount of maps I hate.

[eskimo]

And on a personal note, this is the COD with the most amount of maps I hate.

Apart from WAW you mean

But i've not even played it. Somebody care to answer my question from page2 or whatever it was?

Thanks

[totaltrials]

You are one of them aren't you.... I can deal with them (drop shooters are easier to deal with though then a good quickscoper). I don't think it is a skill any more on this game. With the quickdraw perk and that other one that makes you move faster while scoping in, it has made quickscoping so easy. I tried it out for a few games, I never snipe and have never quickscoped before and I did about 30-18 K/D on my first try. I think they have made it too easy compared to previous COD were quickscoping was abit tricky to master.

I think both quickscoping and drop shooting are just cheap tricks for people who just want easy kills so they can get their killstreak rewards and a good K/D.

Just for you though I have some more moaning.

The type 95 and dual FMG9 (which everyone is using at the moment) is way overpowered. It's like play hardcore modes when you run into those. There are some other overpowered guns but they are the worst.

The spawn system seems to be really shite on it. I seem to get spawn killed all the time, even on game modes where their aren't fixed spawn sides. I had a slight problem with this on MW2 but MW3 is miles worse for this.

Stealth bomber shouldn't be in the support streaks. I have seen loads of people (including myself) whiping out the whole team with ease with them. I think there shouldn't be any killing rewards in the support streaks as it makes it too easy.

And on a personal note, this is the COD with the most amount of maps I hate.

I don't quickscope, I just don't ever use a sniper because I don't enjoy it. I do dropshot occasionally with an SMG when in close proximity. At the end of the day, if you get the kill because of it, then it's not a cheap trick, it's playing the game to it's advantages. It might be annoying for some people, but it just sounds like you want everything your own way to help you win instead of dealing with it. Basically just sounds like you're making excuses up, especially moaning about overpowered guns. Are you one of them that purposely uses a weaker gun to make yourself sound good. All the guns aren't going to have the same level of power, some people like a challenge. Some people want to do the challanges for each gun. Some people use the most powerful guns to their advantage, and some people just prefer other guns just like how I don't like using sniper rifles even though they're the most powerful guns in the game. There's nothing wrong with using a weaker gun, just don't moan about people using a more powerful gun when you get killed, it was your choice. Also, more people use assault rifles and SMGs than people use snipers, by quite a lot from what I've noticed. I did think a lot more people would be using sniper rifles but it doesn't seem that way.

In regards to the support streaks. I think they're great, it makes the game more enjoyable for people who aren't as good. People who can never really get high killstreaks. It can be pretty hard to get killstreams in a lot of the game modes. There will be plenty of players who've played previous cod games and probably hardly ever get killstreaks, only get maybe a 5 now and then. To open the game up more and make it a more even playing field is great. Again, try and deal with it. I don't often get killed by stealth bombers as I usually have enough time to run for cover when I hear or see where abouts they are on the map.

Spawn points are a bit crazy occasionaly but again not really been too upset about it, only now and then. But I suppose it reduces spawn trapping, which again people moan at so you can never have it everyones way.

I'm just not bothered in quick scoping, drop shots, spawing slightly near an opponent, killsteaks etc. The only gripe I have is lag. When you can't trust a game and feel it's hit and miss whether the game will play good or not and there's not much you can do about it is the main problem for me. I can easilly tell the difference when I'm not lagging as much as others, I'll say to myself on numerous times "bloody ell, how did I not die then" and vice versa "how on earth did they not die then". That's always been a problem for me with cod games. But hopefully these problems can get ironed out so it plays a bit better more consitantly.

[totaltrials]

Apologies for bumping this

It's almost winter. Still 10* plus!

Feel like some FPS action. Sold all mine 'cept Reach. COD is easy fun, and i remember MW2 was fun despite issues which they developers seem to never remove from the game.

So ignoring these style of comments:

Is this as fun as MW2?

I've not played COD / xbox since the snow. MW2 was full of hacks/ mods when i left, and before MW3 goes the same, i gota get in there quick. Black Ops somehow did feel a step down for me in the way of weaponry. So can i expect to have as much fun and annoyances from MW3 as i did MW2, especially seeing as i've not touched it in a lonng time?

Black Ops plays slightly different, but in terms of how similar it is to MW2, it is pretty similar with how it plays. Ye they've changed things but you won't notice particularly much difference when you play. I also don't really get why people say things like "it's just the same as the last one", "nothing is different", "why waste money". One way to look at it is, when you buy say the 4/5 map packs that come out, it might cost around £40-£50 to get more maps. A new game is basically a big map pack. The game is Call of Duty, if they change the game too much it's just not going to be the same game. The campain is obviously totally different and different guns ,challanges, perks, killstreaks etc in mulitplayer always makes a nice change. You've also got different game modes like kill confirmed (which is basically all I play) which is brilliant and the new 2 player game mode (similar to zombies but without zombies, explaining it briefly).

In terms of mods and hacks, maybe security is tighter in this game for the future. Treyarch done an extremely good job stopping it and it was always their aim to stop it and they succeeded, so Activision might have taken a leaf out of their book.

But the difference between Treyarch games and Activision games is quite a lot but still keeping it close enough to be a COD game. So really there's 2 years between each type of game. I really think people who moan about COD in that type of way arn't really thinking about what they're saying, they literally can't change the game too much, and besides, if they did, I don't think it would be any better in terms of gameplay, movement and controlls. They're all on a massive bandwagon. Wish they'd just say they don't like the franchise instead of moaning about it and buying every one and saying the same thing every time, if they don't like it, fine, move on don't continue to buy and play it.

I get annoyed plenty of times, but I still love COD, and I haven't played another FPS game that rivals it in terms of enjoyment. And I suppose that's why it's the biggest game franchise going.

As you also said about "fun and annoyances" yes you will, you always will have both of them, but you'll still enjoy it like you did on MW2 and maybe more.

Edited December 1, 2011 by totaltrials

[Mikee]

No, I don't want it too be the way I want it too help me win, I just think that guns with advantages aswell as disadvantages make it more fair/fun. For example, Snipers should be shit hot at at long range but awful at short range. SMGs should be not very powerful but be really quick to draw, make you move faster and brilliant at short/medium range but terrible at long range. Assault rifles should be more powerful and better at range then the SMG but be worse at short range by being slower to draw and slow you down abit. With perks like quickdraw and stalker, it kind of cancels out guns disadvantages over the others. And in regards to the type 95, it doesn't really have a disadvantage over the other assault rifles apart from fully auto hip fire spraying (but the M16 also has this disadvantage). I used the type 95 for a few games and the majority of the time it was 1 burst kill. I think It would be better that with the advantage of accuracy/fire rate in guns it should have a disadvantage of slightly less power . Guns will still behave completely different for different player styles and preferences but the advantages and disavntages would balance things out. The other over powered gun I mentioned was the dual FMG9 which as a secondary weapon should not be better then any primary weapons. I tried it too see what the fuss was about as everyone was using them and at short range they are miles better then any SMG. The only times I really got beat at short range with them was in a game with someone using a shotgun when we met mega close.

With the same kind of idea, I think there should be a disadvantage to drop shooting. Forced hip fire and increased recoil while lying down or not beeing able too shoot between being crouched and being prone for example. Like I said before, for every advantage there should be a disadvantage.

I too like the support streaks, I never said I didn't. I said that since you don't have to get streaks, just kills, the rewards should be supporting streaks only (UAVs,EMPs,recon drone...) and not ones that can get you a decent amount of kills, like the stealth bomber.

On the spawn issue, surely it isn't hard to make you spawn a certain distance from enemies. I have spawned in enemies views (I could see me spawn in the kill cam) quite a few times.

I also get the lag issues, I find it affects melee alot aswell. But what I have said is worse in my oppinion.