Pashley26 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I'm AS famous as you are Prawn. People know me! I don't know how to put this but; I'm kind of a big deal. I have many leather bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Anchorman quotes aside, you're generally known for rather different reasons Thanks for that, Nick. Shall heed the advice and get looking in to mk2s facelift mk1s*. Now I'm going to be doing less miles than ever in my own car it makes sense to have a fun little petrol toy. I'm trying to convince myself that I'll be leaving it pretty much standard, at least as far as things go under the bonnet, but never say never I guess. If that changes I'll no doubt be in touch! *my bad - was partway through a load of stuff at work regarding a mk2 financial model! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Not a Mk2, you want a Facelift Mk1. It's personal preference really, there are still people out there that like Pre-Facelift Mk1's but I'm with Prawn on this one, Facelift Mk1 Leon's look much nicer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 that's not to say that the pre facelift is a bad car at all, it's what Bob had (and crashed), and was a nice car. THe ones Biggy and Tic have are both facelifts though, and they're much more easy on the eye. Pre facelift: Facelift: Nicer bigger wheels, much smarter bumpers, just a bit less dated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Pre-facelifts dont really look any different to "normal" Leons (bar the multispoke alloys); so you pay the extra, but still look like a pauper. At least the facelift has a full sport bodykit, so there is some differentiation between the models (although they can still be confused with a soot chucker!). Why anybody wouldn't pay the extra for a facelift one is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Note - Some of the facelifts have tear drop mirrors, others have square ones (shown in above photos) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Yeah, the facelift (and the tastier mirrors) look far nicer - for a few hundred quid more it seems a pretty safe bet. Do you know if there were any mechanical differences that came with the facelifts at all or was it purely cosmetic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 no real mechanical difference at all mate. both have an AUQ 180bhp engine with an 02M 6 speed gearbox and the same ECU / management (Bosch ME7.5). All other brakes and running gear are the same. Early Preface lift cars on an X-Y plate had full electric memory leather and electric folding mirrors as standard, these became an option later on. Some early facelifts like Bigmans have the old mirrors but new bumpers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Some later facelifts came with 312mm brakes instead of 288's, but other than that, they are pretty much the same mechanically (as far as I was aware anyway!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Wicked - big brakes are always a winner. Leather and folding mirrors would be pretty nice, but far from essential (and easy enough to chuck in/on at a later date if I ever get cravings!) Handy to know that there was a little crossover though. As I mentioned before, it'll be 6 weeks or so at least before I'll be looking to buy so there's plenty of time to fill myself with (some) knowledge. Even then there's no real rush to get my hands on one so I can play the waiting game for a while until something nice comes along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Some later facelifts came with 312mm brakes instead of 288's, but other than that, they are pretty much the same mechanically (as far as I was aware anyway!) Lies, they all had 312's up front, even Bobs ultra early X plate had 312's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Oh, must have misread that somewhere. That's even better then! Pretty sure all teardrop mirrors are electric (folding and heated) too. ...this is far too geeky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I love being a geek. it's about the only thing I'm good at! Ticcys teardrop mirrors are folding, I'm guessing yours are, so you could well be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 So basically Bigman got a sweet deal? Early facelift, electric folding teardrop mirrors, just no leather? Sounds pretty much ideal. Cheers for the masterclass gents - shall keep reading up on SSS/SCN in the meantime and get clued up - gives me something to do on the lazy days at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 No, Ticcy got the deal, facelift with teardrop mirrors, and optional full leather. Biggy has non electric old style mirrors and cloth interior. Ticcys car was about £2.6k I seem to recall, but it's unimaginably tidy, you won't find many better. £2k will easily see you a facelift car around or under 100k.Bigmans car is still nice though and in a desirable colour, same as georges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I see. Sick. As much as I'm trying to convince myself to leave it standard, I've spent the whole afternoon reading through ridiculous build threads on the forums. This could get out of hand all too easily... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 How's this for thought: Ebay £150 turbo, ebay manifold, home made downpipe, few other fancy bits, and 342bhp Alternatively, a dirty cheap remap (£200) will see you a genuine 210bhp, more than you would ever want probably! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydon_peter Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Plus some (like mine) have cruise control. When I was looking I also saw one for sale with built in sat nav. Now we can end your education of every option on the Leon Cupra's I'm still resisting getting a stage 1 map, it seems pointless when I will probably be selling the car in 8 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I saw that video on Facebook Nick. Never seen a car spit a flame that big before! Epic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Plus some (like mine) have cruise control. When I was looking I also saw one for sale with built in sat nav. Now we can end your education of every option on the Leon Cupra's I'm still resisting getting a stage 1 map, it seems pointless when I will probably be selling the car in 8 months Sell in 2 months, for £1800 'cause you love me, and I might know someone who'll have it off you Why the change though dude? Guessing it's work/annual mileage related? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 No, he's getting all anti england again and is off to pastures green! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Because pre facelifts had a great specification and look less sporty so appeal to less chavy people than yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawny Baby Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Because pre facelifts had a great specification and look less sporty so appeal to less chavy people than yourself. Who's question are you answering boyo? seems like you're having a pop at nobody at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pashley26 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Seamons, like ages ago. For some reason my phone had saved it in it's memory and told me it was the last comment lol. Lets face it, he is a chav. The price difference could get you a decat, 007p and 1.5 map! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Thinking about blowing all my savings on this baby, owner's well known on the S2000 forums: Really shouldn't but they are such amazing cars to drive... thank god winter is coming, might help me keep the money in my account. Must... resist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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