Tall_Rob Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 [attachmentid=5786]Hello fellow zoo pitbull riders!Nifty little trick if your running 22T front and 20T on the rear.I'm using a standard Kool chain.I got a bit miffed when i kept landing on the mech hanger. I took out a couple of links to get it tighter and higher up in to the frame when i found out i didn't need to run a tensioner. To remove the chain or wheel you just have to loosen it and push it forward in to the frame slightly.I'm guessing someone else has probably done something similar but this is how i did it with my frame. I've been running this now for 3 months and haven't had a single problem and it's always got perfect tension. Just waiting for the chain to stretch now.I'm working one a mini bash plate for the rear gear incase i ever land on it so will keep you guys updated if a make it and how it works.Cheers, Rob Larkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Two problems with that: 1. You're the only person in the world who runs that gear 2. When you land to bash, the chain won't have any give it in 'cos you aren't running a tensioner of any kind, so it'll hit the chain and possibly do some damage to some element of your drive-train. Good work for getting it like that, but just be careful That should theoretically work for anyone running 20:18 or 22:18 too... or 16:14... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall_Rob Posted July 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Two problems with that: 1. You're the only person in the world who runs that gear 2. When you land to bash, the chain won't have any give it in 'cos you aren't running a tensioner of any kind, so it'll hit the chain and possibly do some damage to some element of your drive-train. Good work for getting it like that, but just be careful Thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind.So basically, the tensioner obviously tensions the chain but also allows for movement in the frame and as you've said, if i hit the bash. I'm gonna leave it like this for a while longer but i may start asving for one of those ober good tensioners. Just hope i don't break it.Thanks, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 If you get a Rohloff, not only will you not break it but you'll have an amazingly good tensioner as well. Sprung for the win, definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bessell Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Also after riding it like that for a wile it will strech the chain and will become slack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Walls Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Thats exactly what ive done with my pitbull. When i got my new kmc chain, it just kept slippin when i ran it with my tensioner on, so i took the tensioner of and it worked Ive been running it like that since christmas and ive had no problems with it, never slips at all However the chain is starting to become slack now and is starting to loose its tension, so i may need to put a tensoiner on soon but other than that its been perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Tres light gear that 22:20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Not the lightest. Someone on here runs 22:21, which must be insanely light... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I run 20 - 19, really nice and spinny.its cool that you could get it to work without a tensioner, but I am a fan of gears, so its not really my cup of tea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall_Rob Posted July 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I was running 22:18 at one point. It was great for getting up stuff but i was getting no really static power. I had a go on my friends bike and he was using 20:18 and the whole feel of the bike was really flicky and i couldn't control it but i soon upgraded my 22:18 to 22:20. Imuch prefer it but finding that i'm having to use massive bunnyhops to get up stuff. Still practising front wheel taps to get my height though. I may get proper gears one day, who knows how i might progress.Cheers for all the comments guys, Rob Larkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I was running 22:18 at one point. It was great for getting up stuff but i was getting no really static power. I had a go on my friends bike and he was using 20:18 and the whole feel of the bike was really flicky and i couldn't control it but i soon upgraded my 22:18 to 22:20. Imuch prefer it but finding that i'm having to use massive bunnyhops to get up stuff. Still practising front wheel taps to get my height though. I may get proper gears one day, who knows how i might progress.Cheers for all the comments guys, Rob Larkins i used to use 22:19.. the perfect gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafan Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I used to run 18-18...Now I run 18-16, was that in the list above? Cos I'm very sure that don't work for me...Which chain-tool do you need with a kmc?Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 2. When you land to bash, the chain won't have any give it in 'cos you aren't running a tensioner of any kind, so it'll hit the chain and possibly do some damage to some element of your drive-train.I think that's a mod rider's saying. On a stock you can't really land on the chain if you try, because the wheels are bigger and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 16:14 works a treat on the Zoo! Pitbull '06.Pretty much perfect chain tension, and it doesn't destroy the chain if you land on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Staples Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 rob has the longest legs i've ever seen in the flesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I think that's a mod rider's saying. On a stock you can't really land on the chain if you try, because the wheels are bigger and all that oh yes you mo'fukin can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall_Rob Posted July 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 rob has the longest legs i've ever seen in the flesh.Why thanks Mr Staples. They are rather long aren't they.Got my legs even more mashed up since the last time you saw them.The one you took photage of won't heal. It keeps getting infected and my dog keeps licking it (not my balls i may add).I'll try and get a photo up of the damage.Rob LarkinsI used to run 18-18...Now I run 18-16, was that in the list above? Cos I'm very sure that don't work for me...Which chain-tool do you need with a kmc?Nathan It may just be because of the size gears i'm running. They just happen to fit perfectly with that many links in the chain. I may be sad enough to count the amount of links i'm using (i'll have to be very bored though).You can use any normal chain tool with the kmc and they come with a split link as standard.Rob Larkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 When you land to bash, the chain won't have any give it in 'cos you aren't running a tensioner of any kind, so it'll hit the chain and possibly do some damage to some element of your drive-train.But mods don't have that problem. Or have i got the wrong end of the stick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 ive tried 22:19, 20:17, 20:18 and 16:14.the nicest was defonately 20:18 but i wanted a mini bash, so there is nothing i can do really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Can I also be the first to point out, you say that you're annoyed about landing on your mech hanger yet you've still got it in the frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall_Rob Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Can I also be the first to point out, you say that you're annoyed about landing on your mech hanger yet you've still got it in the frame? Well it's got to be there really so that you can attach the wheel. Unless i take it off and replace it with one of the broken ones, but those silly 'K' mech hangers bend and wharp like butter in the sun. The broken ones don't really work anymore. They're a hard fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinky Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 you dont need a mech hanger, just take it off and screw the qr/axle up more. worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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