marklim Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Hi Guys,Im extremely new to biketrial and i will be getting a mod bike to start out with. I will be getting a second hand trial bike. However, im caught in between 2 bikes. And i would really appreaciate if you guys could help me see which is a better bike as im not sure about parts for trial bikes.1) Echo Bike-Echo Frame & Fork. -Try All Stem (Black). -Try All Carbon Handlebar (Black). -Try All Stiky Front Tyre. -Try All Stiky Rear Tyre. -Echo Bashguards. -Echo Crank. -Echo Rear Hub. -Echo Front & Back Rim. -Echo Brake Booster. -Shimano Front Hub. -Monty Grips. -Magura Front & Rear Hydraulic Brakes. 2) Zoo BikeZoo! Python frame- Brisa disc 20" fork- HS-33 rear and disc front (Avid rotor)- Monty cranks- Zoo! stem and bar- Pink pads- VP pedals- Monty Chain- White Industry FreeWheel (72 engagement for specially trials)- Monty front and Try-all rear tyre- Monty hub + Alex rim rear wheelThanks Alot,Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob87 Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 I'd say the Zoo Python.Take a shot of each bike and see what you feel i comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 go for the echo looks better condition and would be better to start on in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyyman Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 go for the echo looks better condition and would be better to start on in my opinion.whats the logic/pro and cons when you define a bike asbetter to start on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A!! Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 I would also say the Echo. It looks in good condition (better than the zoo), and i think it is a nicer looking frame in general. The Echo would be a good first bike because having a disk when just starting trials is asking for trouble as you will end up catching it and bending the rotor. So using front and rear maguras would be a better idea. The Echo frames are strong as well so they will take the knocks and bangs. The Zoo does come with an eno freewheel which is a good thing, but they do take looking after and maintaining to keep them running smooth, so you would have to be prepared for cleaning it out every so often. Overall though i would say the Echo as it looks a better condition and it's a strong frame. In my opinion it isn't a good idea to get a disk when starting, so the Echo would be better as it comes with maguras. Also the Echo's geometry is nice and it's not too extreme so it will be easier to get started on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 whats the logic/pro and cons when you define a bike asbetter to start on?ok well the zoo python is quite a long bike generally so what happens if he is a short bike rider? he is stuck until he gets a new frame least with the echo being a bit smaller its more in the middle.also id say starting of with a pair of maggies is better than a maggy n a disc incase u bend disc as said trying t learn new stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Echo, better condition, and a generaly nicer looking bike, also everyman and his dog has zoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 zoo!better rear rim better bar and stem better better freewheel....max... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTF Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 echo, for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 zoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Echo - very respectable spec and looks completely unabused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Echo - very respectable spec and looks completely unabused and won't ride like a barge. Edited for accuracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Edited for accuracy Nothing wrong with a long one Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle-livesey Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 one word zoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklim Posted August 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 am really confused now... haha... seems like both is equally good.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 ermecho - because it's medium sized. if you don't like ridiculously long bikes and you buy the python you're f**ked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay@BBT Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Well both are good bikes.. Just maybe the zoo is too good for you?Like.. The parts are good on the echo and should not need alot of maintaining.. (well just the basics)But with the python the Eno Would need a regular service, and you'd have to be careful with the disk if you don't know what you're doing, and little things like that really..Plus the Echo can really take a beating!Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aener Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 To sum up: 8 votes to Echo (9 including mine)4 votes to Zoo.I say Echo aswell because of most of the reasons about there...:- Don't have to worry about bending disk,- Stronger for the bails you're bound to get while learning,- More medium length, so you're not totaly stuffed if you prefer short [but you don't know yet],- Looks in better nick,- (I don't know if it's got an inbuilt one, but) The Zoo! has no booster on the rear brake,- Less maintenance, and finally,- Loads of people these days have Zoo!'s, push the boat out, be adventurous and get the Echo; they've got a very good reputation too y'know! My advice would be get the Echo - if you didn't pick up on that Flipp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhups Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) I would also say the Echo. It looks in good condition (better than the zoo), and i think it is a nicer looking frame in general. The Echo would be a good first bike because having a disk when just starting trials is asking for trouble as you will end up catching it and bending the rotor. So using front and rear maguras would be a better idea. The Echo frames are strong as well so they will take the knocks and bangs. The Zoo does come with an eno freewheel which is a good thing, but they do take looking after and maintaining to keep them running smooth, so you would have to be prepared for cleaning it out every so often. Overall though i would say the Echo as it looks a better condition and it's a strong frame. In my opinion it isn't a good idea to get a disk when starting, so the Echo would be better as it comes with maguras. Also the Echo's geometry is nice and it's not too extreme so it will be easier to get started on. Theres nothing wrong with having a dick upfront when starting or whenever, back is abit dodgey but front disk if fine and my vote goes for the zoo better spec. Edited August 29, 2006 by bhups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklim Posted August 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 hi guys,i've compiled the results together with what i've posted on other forums and the results are,echo --> 13 voteszoo ---> 8 votesmeanwhile, kindly keep the comments going on as i've not yetdecided on which bike to go with.lastly, thanks alot guys. u guys have helped me alot.rgds,mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smo™ Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Theres nothing wrong with having a dick upfront when starting or whenever, back is abit dodgey but front disk if fine and my vote goes for the zoo better spec.Oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saracen Kid Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 i would go for the zoo its a better spec and it looks looooooads nicer Theres nothing wrong with having a dick upfront when starting or whenever, back is abit dodgey but front disk if fine and my vote goes for the zoo better spec.what have you got then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklim Posted August 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 anyway, think i'll be going with the echo.. cuz it looks nicer. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 The echo mate, that is one of the nicest looking bikes i have ever seen and it looks like it will ride a dream.Go for the echo.Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Oh dear.that one nearly got quoted (out of context) in my sig. I resisted though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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