NirZionTrials Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) Hey guys,today i am runinng a King with Quick Release, i am changing to Hope Pro 2, i seems that most Pro 2 Users ride with Fun Boltsthe thing is my friends riders with FB but the has to adjust it 3-4 times every ride...and when i ride with a QR i dont even look at it...what do you guys think? Edited January 26, 2007 by NirZionTrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 they come with those bolts. cant see why anyone would run QR instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 fb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 you cant put a gr on the hope oanyway. But funbolts are loads better anyway, dont see how they have to keep adjusting them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 you cant put a gr on the hope oanyway. But funbolts are loads better anyway.Why not?I thought they had a hollow axle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NirZionTrials Posted January 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 you cant put a gr on the hope oanyway. But funbolts are loads better anyway, dont see how they have to keep adjusting themI have no idea, but its a new hub, i have even tried to tighten it myself, and i put alot of strength to it...did not help, anyone heard of this problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam-pantera Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 or8 m8 pro 2s come with the choice now when you buy if u buy a q/r then your axel will be stronger but if u buy a f/b then it will be weaker and ive heard of these bolts rounding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 or8 m8 pro 2s come with the choice now when you buy if u buy a q/r then your axel will be stronger but if u buy a f/b then it will be weaker and ive heard of these bolts rounding how are fun bolts weaker? you can tighten them up way tighetr than you can with a q/rfun bolts are the futureash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam-pantera Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 ermm fun bolts require a 12 mm hole when a q/r has only a 5mm hole making the axel stronger . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 ermm fun bolts require a 12 mm hole when a q/r has only a 5mm hole making the axel stronger .But a quick release hardly supports the hub at all, where as the Fun Bolts have a 10mm solid steel bolt supporting the inside of the axle. And hopes are 10mm Fun bolts, so only need a 9mmish whole with an M10 thread in it.Anyway, never heard of problems with them coming loose really, and any bolt can be rounded by a big enough idiot.Go for which ever you thinks would be easier/nicer. Neithers realy gunna be stonger or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 its the droput that is supporting the hub anywayso for plain vertical moves qr is fine but for sideways moves the bolts provide that extra security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 But a quick release hardly supports the hub at all, where as the Fun Bolts have a 10mm solid steel bolt supporting the inside of the axle. And hopes are 10mm Fun bolts, so only need a 9mmish whole with an M10 thread in it.Anyway, never heard of problems with them coming loose really, and any bolt can be rounded by a big enough idiot.Go for which ever you thinks would be easier/nicer. Neithers realy gunna be stonger or whatever.9mm hole for an m10 thread! you would have fun getting that bolt to fit!m10 is a m10 for a reason it means 10mm, therefore the hole needs to be m10 clearance usually around 10,2mmash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26inch Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 the hole is about 9mm with 10mm m10 threads cut in to it. Hence when you internaly tap somethin you drill a hole smaller than the size of the boly. Think about it in a 10mm hole, a 10mm diameter bolt would just slide in and out as the outside of the threads is 10mm wide. The Qr hopes arn't the trials version, hope used funbolts for a reason on the trials, theyre loads stiffer. The 6mm allen heads can be rounded pretty easily as they are quite shallow. Its not hard to get bolts with a 8mm allen head though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 9mm hole for an m10 thread! you would have fun getting that bolt to fit!m10 is a m10 for a reason it means 10mm, therefore the hole needs to be m10 clearance usually around 10,2mmashthe m10 tapping size is 8.5mm. it has a 1.5mm pitch. now what do you think would happen if you drilled it 10.2mm and tried to tap it 10mm? oops. 10.2mm is infact the tapping drill for an m12 thread.so the minium diamter of a pro2 axel must be 8.5mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 .....8.5mm.Yeah, knew it was something around that. haha.Anyway, yeah, as said above the fun bolts will be stiffer, and not sure you can get the trials hub in any other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Concussion Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I have funbolts.... they piss me off! Wish I'd gone for a qr set-up!I find it's a pain fitting the wheel due to both bolts having to be tightened together to ensure the wheel sits in the same place every time I remove the wheel (and who has two allen keys when out on a ride?).... which really never happens ie: I usually have to adjust my brakes EVERY FREAKIN TIME! It's a slight pain having to fit the wheel with the bolts in place to get past the mech and I'm just not comfortable with the thread sitting in the dropouts for some reason!Sometimes they come loose and I'm not using locktight on them cause the wheel needs to come out every so often to change pads / punctures etc.Meh` they do my nut in! QR is so much easier, although not as stiff I guess!.... mini rant over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) I have funbolts.... they piss me off! Wish I'd gone for a qr set-upditto. they're alrite and that but need tightening every so often - which never happens with a QRthe main problem is that the bolts dont fit past your rear mech (does anyone still run a mech?!) when u try and take the wheel out or put it in. this means its impossible to set the wheel in the dropouts (cos you can't have the bolts screwed in a bit) and without them in, lining up the axle threads / bolts to screw it in is a bitch. with my current onslaught of punctures, gets right on my tits! Edited January 27, 2007 by the boon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 QRs annoy me - The wheel slips in the dropout all the time and it's annoying. I'd much rather have fun bolts like I had on my old bike. Or 360 dropouts for the ultimate wheel-staying-in-place action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Garland Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Any reason for the move from a King to a Pro 2??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NirZionTrials Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Any reason for the move from a King to a Pro 2???The king is a great hub,but after having problems with it and changing his main internal parts, that means:Drive RingDriven RingDrive SpringSpring Retainerit skiped on me a couple of times, one of the times was a 6 foot drop, land to two whiles *ouch*... that just Piss me off.so i wana see how loyal the Pro 2 is, if its better then the CK i will just move to using it.anyway i got FB with my new Pro 2, even thoe i have a bad feeling... what i am saying is "if somthing works dont fix it" QR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 the m10 tapping size is 8.5mm. it has a 1.5mm pitch. now what do you think would happen if you drilled it 10.2mm and tried to tap it 10mm? oops. 10.2mm is infact the tapping drill for an m12 thread.so the minium diamter of a pro2 axel must be 8.5mm.do you really think i am thick?yuo were refering at first to the hole size in the framei never said that 10.2 was a tapping drill size? its M10 clearance, for the fun bolt to ft in the dropout size in the frame it needs to be at least 10mmeither me or you have got mixed up with what we are talking about here in the conversationi see the point that you thought i was saying 10,2 was a tapping dril size, i didnt mean thati know that 8,5mm is the tapping drill size for M10basically i didnt realise that you were on about the axle i thought you wer referring to the dropout,sorry for any confusionash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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