TOBY E Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 hello everybody i purchased some koxx bloxx greens about a week ago and put a fresh grind on my rim it was working mint until Saturday then it just wasn't holding and was slipping and making no noise so i got home toke my rim off cleaned it with a cloth with white spirit on, then rinsed it with water sanded all the s**t off my pads and set them up square with the rim and it is still working rubbish.could any one give me a bit off advice pleasethanks alot Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Don't use white spirit - it'll leave a slippery residue on the rim!Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeriding Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 (edited) maybe the grind is too heavy? Edited February 26, 2007 by afroman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY E Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Don't use white spirit - it'll leave a slippery residue on the rim!Joncould you please give me some advice off what to usethanks Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyrider Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 i got oil on my rims once, tried everything under the sun until i grinded my rim and sanded my pads my brake was alwaus shit........ give it a small grind. should be ok then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY E Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 maybe the grind is too heavy?its only a light grind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 It's common for grease to generally get onto rims & pads (there is a chain spinning around nearby!), compromising the coefficient of friction between the two. White Spirit isn't the best degreaser since it leaves residue. If you're looking for an easy to get hold of alternative I'd recommend a household cleaner for floors/bathrooms or even washing up liquid as being better than white spirit. Washing off the cleaner afterwards with water is always a good idea, and giving the brake a period of use afterwards seems to help.Moulded brake pads come covered in mould release agent, so they need to be degreased before glueing and use. To do a top job of this I use some Industrial chemical degreasing solution, which isn't suited to home use due to it's harmful nature! Why not grab the washing up liquid and a brio pad and see how much better that makes it work?Best of luck,Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY E Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 It's common for grease to generally get onto rims & pads (there is a chain spinning around nearby!), compromising the coefficient of friction between the two. White Spirit isn't the best degreaser since it leaves residue. If you're looking for an easy to get hold of alternative I'd recommend a household cleaner for floors/bathrooms or even washing up liquid as being better than white spirit. Washing off the cleaner afterwards with water is always a good idea, and giving the brake a period of use afterwards seems to help.Moulded brake pads come covered in mould release agent, so they need to be degreased before glueing and use. To do a top job of this I use some Industrial chemical degreasing solution, which isn't suited to home use due to it's harmful nature! Why not grab the washing up liquid and a brio pad and see how much better that makes it work?Best of luck,SteveOK thanks for your help mate ill go and try washing up liquid now ill get back to you when i have finished thanks allot Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrAd-Tpro Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 Or.. I find after using petrol use a warmish cloth and rub it around the rim, then go and ride with the brake semi locked on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY E Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 It's common for grease to generally get onto rims & pads (there is a chain spinning around nearby!), compromising the coefficient of friction between the two. White Spirit isn't the best degreaser since it leaves residue. If you're looking for an easy to get hold of alternative I'd recommend a household cleaner for floors/bathrooms or even washing up liquid as being better than white spirit. Washing off the cleaner afterwards with water is always a good idea, and giving the brake a period of use afterwards seems to help.Moulded brake pads come covered in mould release agent, so they need to be degreased before glueing and use. To do a top job of this I use some Industrial chemical degreasing solution, which isn't suited to home use due to it's harmful nature! Why not grab the washing up liquid and a brio pad and see how much better that makes it work?Best of luck,Stevethanks allot i triaed it yesterday and it sorta worked i cleaned it twice with washing up liquid and it is working ok with a bit off tarthanks Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 thanks allot i triaed it yesterday and it sorta worked i cleaned it twice with washing up liquid and it is working ok with a bit off tarthanks TobyIf you're using tar then it doesn't sound totally successful It's tricky cleaning grinds compared to smooth rims. I'd regrind and concentrate on cleaning those pads nicely Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
531joshua Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Alright,Harsh grind, but use harder compound pads so they last longer, maybe koxx browns?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY E Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 If you're using tar then it doesn't sound totally successful It's tricky cleaning grinds compared to smooth rims. I'd regrind and concentrate on cleaning those pads nicely Steveok ill try a regrind at the weekend thank again Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicman Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 maybe it is because they are ment for the wet they will work on a grind in the dry but not as good as koxx bluesa person i know had to dip his wheel in water to make the brake work properly with koxx greens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 if your still having problems, send them to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 hello everybody i purchased some koxx bloxx greens about a week ago and put a fresh grind on my rim it was working mint until Saturday then it just wasn't holding and was slipping and making no noise so i got home toke my rim off cleaned it with a cloth with white spirit on, then rinsed it with water sanded all the s**t off my pads and set them up square with the rim and it is still working rubbish.could any one give me a bit off advice pleasethanks alot Toby looked in here mate, my clean rim tipyea i often use peterol to clean the rim basicaly becouse it drys very quick and leves no residue, dont use any fairy liquid as it leves a nasty grese in your rim. your problem my be how you grind it? what are you using? (because some people use knives ect,, )make sure its even and concistant, perpendicular to the side wall.also have you thort that it could be a foulty pad, wich has set wrong and has a slitly differnt compoud in the middle as a result?cheers max! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOBY E Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 your problem my be how you grind it? what are you using? (because some people use knives ect,, )make sure its even and concistant, perpendicular to the side walllol i used a grinder with a cutting blade on i think and i ground it on a right angle to the rim(the pads was working fine until Saturday)thanks for the help everyone Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowman12 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 its only a light grindthat may be your problem, the grind may have worn off. re grind it with a medium to hrsh grind. my grind has worn off and im having the same problem as you. it was fine with the fresh grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mx-rickyp@hotmail.com Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Toby ive got your answer!!!!!!!get some monty shorts. you no there awsome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 OK - residue on rim problems, I never was my breaking surface clean I grind it clean;White spirit - don't use that - leaves slippery residue.Washing up liquids - have slippy sheen enhancers to make mums washing up look good! The more expensive the product the worse it is.Give your rim a scrub with traffic film remover or wipe over with a solvent like acetone or cellulose thinners and re-grind.Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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