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Too much firmness is bad I agree, TRP Slate is one of those brakes that hurt fingers. But a healthy level of feedback of the bite point is crucial in my opinion. Spongy lever on the other hand, doesn't let you know what happens there and when, it's just numb and then grabs all of sudden. Also same thing when letting go (modulating) the brake, with a spongy brake you have to guess where it starts to slip. Another thing is, many of us like to run the levers adjusted very close to bars which makes maintaining a secure grip easier and causing less arm pump. With a spongy brake you can't really do that. About my Hope brake.. I used hours to bleed this thing (which is awesome because of the ability to do it moto-style btw, actually no need for a bleed kit), there was some minor air coming out but it didn't improve much. Also shortened the hose and that made probably the biggest difference (obviously). Then I noticed that one of the pistons was slightly stuck or needed much more force to push back than the other one. So I used another hour to move them in and out to make them work better. Now it seems to actuate symmetrically enough so that's probably not the issue number one. The end result is that nothing significantly changed, the brake is still quite soft and numb although yes it brakes well now when bedded in. The contact area of the pads and rotor is huge. Just not a fan of how it feels like, cumbersome is the correct term I think, with the massive blocky lever blade together with lack of firm bite point. Also the clearance between pads and rotor seems almost non existent in this brake by design, I don't think it's a fault. So it's always rubbing a bit when pushing the bike, making that honk honk noise. I thought that Magura MT5 brakes were insanely difficult to get right in terms of clearance adjustment, but this is on another level. Imagine when the rotor is getting slightly bent.... The higher than normal leverage ratio probably being the reason, to all of these issues. Fun thing is that the fancy bite point adjuster is pretty much unusable, because the pads are already too close when it's rolled completely open. Switching to braided hoses might fix the lack of feel but I probably wouldn't bother to try.   

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100% agree with lever design and safety issues. Many riders I know wrapped them in bartape or used special jitsie pads to eliminate sharp parts. But I don't understand why people are so obsessed with firm lever feel. Usually, it hurts finger when brake is squeezed too much. If a spongy lever fully actuates brake and not hitting a grip or middle finger – it's fine + less arm pump.

Hi anyone ride near York on here? 

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