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*Not aimed at flipp, or anyone actually: Just tipsy gobshite ponderings. Sip up and beddybyes I tink.

Mr lemon is in the same head space as me Re. height/size of person vs bike. You are of course not wrong messrs Clarkson, Travis, but there is an arguement (and it was the train of thought I had going through my head @ the time of typing ^^^) that the lack of familiarity promotes the 'clean slate' expirience/headspace/mindset quoted above. Also. I did have the very basics in mind when I said mod, can the person confiding in me [my mate in the hypothetical above] even pop the front wheel off the floor? Chances are a tarmac based rider has probs never tried. Endo? Stoppie? Well in a drops, slicks, lycra, veet n bic razor mindset either/both of those occouring are a very bad day in the office (I recall the way Peter Sagan's sponsor laden derivative of road bike party was such a fap fest to the leg shaving crowd (road.cc cough) - he rode over a stationary Skoda estate w/slopey ramps F+R ffs...) Watch any of GCN's youtube for a time and i feel you'll get the kinda feel i'm talking about bleed through. [Gravel bikes are best vs mtb because I'm fat, 40+, shit on a bike unless the metric is watts or KOM's smashed on zwift and don't want to learn owt new because reasons and neither do you, the viewer, is a video narrative that sticks in the mind] Even just wheelieing up a tight 3set o'steps would be easier to learn on a mod, is my thought process. Ditto the flatland stuff/exercise drills you teach kids or absolute beginners, like seahorses (endo-two wheel-pull on bars-back to two wheel-endo-rinse n repeat), then seahorse throrugh 180 then 360deg and rockwalks and riding up pallete steps and endo turns & so on and so forth are just easier for a noob to grasp on a mod IMO. Purposefully compartmentalising each bike, and therefore dicipline, is a device that I've come to use alot in recent years - even just something as simiple as to come towards the road end out of my estate and make a concious thought "right you're on drops n slicks so that means you're clipped in, and in with 3 bolt cleats, and they're dead tight so unclip now while you're still rolling so you can't fall over/forget, panic, topple over and stack it" rather than the same road end on a different bike would be a sit-down-trackstand-scout-for-traffic-before-doing-a-lifesaver moment. It could also mean I'm on my '76 Carlton Corsa w/toeclips... I also rode/ride mototrial in spits and sparts and can't stand BMX FWIW, so at least on my part there is no small wheel 20in influence over than sparadic spells of Mod ownership. BMX's only USP for me is pegs and even that gets boring for me after ten mins... The fact that that I usually had to prize my mod or stock or 4play away from my BMXer mates that'd swap with me for a few mins playtime to me always said wonders about how good bmx is, but hey ho. They themselves then found MTB and pretty much shelved bmx to at least priority the third...

This question's abit like "how long's a piece of string??", particularly off that generic of information. Nevertheless, if you were a mate and you'd come to me and said "I wanna do abit of that [trials] like what you do" and that mate had a background in bikes but like road or XC; like, rides bikes, but nowt where skill is primary over athleticism, [what I'm getting at is that a die-in-the-blood-never-done-owt-else "cyclist"/road rider would and can smash me when I'm out for a road ride, because athletic AF and does "training" and goes for "training rides" & has watts for days but same person X would never leave tarmac and couldn't even hop a curb in an evasive - like wise light trail/trail centre/XC peeps are more skills orientated by nature but I could never think of them manualling rollers or riding wooden features or doing gap jumps and so forth - some might be able to endo turn and bunnyhop a bit and half do a trackstand clipped in] and that 5ft 8 mate described their ambitions as you have, my intsticts as someone whose been around trials 15yrs ish would be to get them hooked up with a "cheap" Mod (that is, 20in wheel front and owt above par/a certain standard will have a 19in wheel in the rear with a trials specific large volume tyre in the rear and, frame in particular, 4bolt mounts for magura HS style rim brakes and/or a disc brake mount capable of a large disc brake). The manoverablilty and ease of use, I 'spose, is the reason I grab the mod more often than not over my 24in Inspired these days. A good mod is just so easy to cock around on, I drop myself on it and no matter how long it's been or what I was riding last I can just click myself into where I left off, like I was just on a pause button. In this hypothetical I would advise my mate that they want around 700gbp for bought new from shop (Echo, cough, from tartys, cough) or as ebay/farcebuck mrktfceplm/gumtree etc is your oyster; <100gbp can buy you a shitter to idley sesh the curb outside your house if you are willing to put the effort in bargain chasing and are not scared of the tools and hard graft/unf**king other peeps finest workmanship and learning the tough way about trials parts and standards. 100-300gbp - kinda same same, less of a shitter spec wise, could be a right shed and at the very least a money pit. I'm exprienced enough to be confident in this price range and would take an educated punt I wouldn't advise others to do. Do your research, know your shit, shop wisely, still be prepared for a frame up rebuild/service and maintainance items to be done for piece of mind. You could get a gem. 300 - 450 squid - proper money now I know, but hold your nerve and this is where the good stuff is/was before the 'rona. What it is, spec and/or condition denotes price. It'll have the good gear but you don't skip the service items just cos you paid more - it's a trials bike, it's never turn key, always high maintainance and quite often highly strung til and even after you get them "well sorted". 450-600 - this is where the proper stuff is, and, unless it's exceptional, I don't think this kinda money fits the brief. You'd be underskilled and overbiked IMO. My gut tells me to look for (but in no way restricted to) Monty 221 PR, 221Ti, Onza pro series, so Blade 2010 (the white gold colourway) & Comp 2010 (the purple/grey colourway a certain Jack Carthy rode for a spell) Limey 2, Ice, Limey 320, The 2010ish dark blue Onza Pro w/ 4bolt + disc mount, 2006 Onza T-pro (the anodised army green one), Echo lite, team, team 09, SL Zoo! python, pirahana GU Typhhon, LE, ST, 2014 Czar 07 Adamant A3 Because colour Neon bow Speedrace Fans Atomz Premier Koxx Hydroxx KO KM1 ZHI Ozonys Curve Yeah, eBay's your oyster...

Riding position is definately wrong. Put the M520 spd's in for a try-it-and-see run 'round whilst doing an erand and it's done the usual of taking away the feeling of [the bike] dragging it's arse, even in ~40mph gusting westerly precurser to an atlantic storm front (I was heading west so all the headwind - reminded me why I had a granny ring ont Kona...) but the change in stack height of clipless vs flats & trainers means the seat needs to go up/back (standard stuff) but the combo of that, bar position/height and bar width (the main culprit I think) means I'm faarrr too Vee'd out. My dodgy right shoulder blade let me know of that quick sharp after 10mins ish. NFG.

So after a damn good scrub, some maintainance and melting the kaff into the setup... I've since changed bits like adding a (shit) rear rack and changed back to the selcof stem with some 700mm echo style flat bars, and I am trying the planet x post n seat on my roadie so the crank brothers cobalt post and sdg bel air off that are in this for the minute/hopefully for good. Looking at these photos is making me want to go back to the answer bar/reverse 80mm stem pictured here though, and put a front rack on for some proper surly long haul trucker vibes... Oh and the rear wheel's f**ked (flatspot even your most poverty crippled TGSer would give up on - it actually ocilates the bike with a load on the rack) so they'll have to come off and the shit wheels will have to go in til money starts flowing again. I've got some 700c rims to go on but that'd mean new 'guards, spokes, tyres etc. and I've two sets of these city jets to burn off as I bought 4 on sale for the kona then wuhanarghchoo f**ked the job. There may be some spd's going on too. /not sure yet.

So redunacy made me consider my options transport wise. For context: The old work was 10mins across town and I could have feasibly dailyed something that looks like it was/was actually pulled from a skip if I wanted; but I did that to college & back for ~3yrs and that's all well and good when you don't have a timesheet to answer for if your put-together-from-scrap-n-takeoff-shitbox throws a wobbler. Nae good, wasn't doing that again; so in the beginning I was gifted my uncle's carrera subway when he decided he'd get something new on cycle to work, and spent the pocket monies from the 1st month's wage on rennovating it so it would be good and solid. Time passes and eventually the take off from the carrera gets to a point where it should really all go back on the carrera so I can build it up to liquidate it and swap all 'my' parts onto this kona frame I've had forever. Kona frame worth < built up carrera so funds = generated and still have a work hack for 7.30am monday morning. Win. Some boardman forks, a matching front hub, some swap parts (there is always something incompatable when swapping frames isn't there?) and some maintainance items later we end up with a bike that does me stirling service for the next 2ish years. [apologies for the quality - I was in full spray n pray mode as I were borrowing my neighbour's wall and he'd not be best pleased with my barend against his dashing) Somewhere along the way the matching white home bargains knog on the barend did one and I've not seen it since; switch had shit the bed anyway [meh]. Anyways so the batpox relieves me of my job and now work ain't gonna be 10mins easy, pan flat, crosstown bod anymore. Possibly now even a proper trek; through the lanes, in winter. So I conclude (with some man maths, i concede) that a 'proper commuter' is required. One accidently later... [BRB gotta find the build photos of the kaff...]

White & company? They're the famous one that started with horse carts and model T ford box trucks. There's corgi toys of 'em and all sorts. Our hometown one is Steeles Removals. Side tangent is that they have a Reliant on top of a container out front that i/the family are 90odd% sure is my Grandad's Rialto van, now liveried up to look like the one papa steele started out with.

Did you ask them what is was? [Joke] Could do with that kinda powah for all the SMIDSY cnuts of Barrow sat creeping on the clutch bite @ T junctions... Youda thunk that 2 lezyne style cree lights set up x beam pattern on flashy flashy at full chooch & a knog on the peak of the 661 evo brain bucket would be enough. But nope. Still get pulled out on at point blank range - even when I align myself centre right of the carriageway, then tuck back in mid left after the junction. It's not like none of this is in a street-lit area either. Honestly feels less prone between the hedges of single trackers and 16ft wide lanes in the murk of midnight blackness.

So I'm just gonna lurk from now on & read about rusty roadsters and your problems... Nah seriously boys all of you are correct, non of it is conclusions I hadn't already came to whilst I've been sat shotgun in a van since 2016, & all of it can only be implemented up to a certain capacity - I mean what I wrote in that hotel California quip. @monkeyseemonkeydo Sorry, that particular piece of wingebaggary/vent/cathartic wasn't aimed at anyone. I'm doing >3-5hrs on the jobs boards at the mo and you just need an outlet. Don't think I'm owt special either - this just unfiltered street level experience of life in what I've coined the 'true' north as apposed to the politicians north that stops in an invisible lateral line about where mr.2707 lives. This "The North" I hear on't news seems to stop laterally at manchester and everything else is "that's like scotland int'it?" [can confirm that I'm very much english, for my sins] You are correct about M sport's spot outside cockermouth being near me, about 60 crow flies miles north up the coast, and mr wilson is supposed to be as you say. M sport pissed a few dog walkers off when they fenced off their test stages/quarry last year but that's the stoopid locals perceived entitlement not Msport's. My problem I don't want to make a whiny problem out of everything so let's say issue, is that the feeder course is at an agri college campus ~80/90 road mile from me that is inaccessible by means other than the private car/daily commute by train & ride is not feasible no how much I want it to be (did this pros/cons whey up when I was 16/17yo & nowts changed). You're nearly in [lancaster] uni country so digs are big boy money aka no dice. Thanks to me decidedly middle of the road vanilla and pretty good for nothing I'm not Prince's trust et al material either. @forteh Ah mate of course I'm looking further afield than my own postcode. I'm so used to being to being out on the roads in the BRS job that the thought of sinking back into this place bothers me something rotten. / Don't get me wrong boys, The (greater) barrow or the '590 area isn't a favela or owt, the coastline is accessible at 4 different points from the front doorstep and all are within 5 road miles, This summer I've explored my own back yard going for bods on the roadie bike - we've backlanes and moor tops with views for days and now I very much see how serious leg shavers road riders can do barrow-coniston bluebird caff-barrow before lunchtime without breaking sweat - even my longer run round skates the border of the lake district national park at it's furthest point. Barrow's best attributes for me all stem from not actually being in it - it's the cliche'd people that spoil it The crippling deprivation is real though. If I could start treating it like a dormitory again then I'd be a whole lot less of a sourpuss about the whole shituation. That's what all this stems from ultimately, that's what maketh the fire, the vitriol; I thought I was making progress in hitting the GTFO button, the personal betterment that I resent my 'peers'/fellow barrowvians for not being outwardly apparent, or at the v. least dragging myself into that nice(r) postcode away from the corridor between two sinkholes I/we currently reside in. Happy travels boys. Edit: just as I proof read that a whole bunch of f**kwits sprawled out'et the estate & into my front street having a right ol' do about how one of em's a slag and "Am gonna kick ur f**kin head in an' burn you in your living room while ur kid watches" and all this shit and now I can hear the riot squad and paddy wagons off in the distance on their way round to go scoop the whole sorry lot up further off down the street before they get chance to do one up and over the 8x4 council lock-ups & across the railway line. Face. Palm.

@monkeyseemonkeydo Left school (i guess you'd class it as a comprehensive style school, it's not there now anyway, cumbria county melted two schools into one, knocked down the (conveniently & suddenly not at all) grade 2 listed building after it (also conveniently) went on fire, as valuable real estate w/ problem buildings atop it tend to do 'round here and built an academy on the bottom field whilst selling off the back fields for 10p on the pound to enable a made of matchsticks housing development that be worth ~£1.8m+ in the end...) So yeah Left school sep 2009, 5 A-C's yada yada, scratched on for NVQ L2 engineering feeder course for the yard at the (only for 40 miles and garbage) FE college, passed easily but got passed over whilst my "peers" the retards around me who was born into/came from the better postcode and had connections within the boys club that is the yard got the apprenticeship into easy street that I (and the guy who taught mechy fitting candidly told me) reckon should've been mine. This is 2010 by this point - world's f**ked, i'm not earning, Dad's job's rapidly going down the shitter, Mam's job is 8hrsish & shit. "f**k it, guess I'm gonna have to go back to college then." "Aye an' do wat?" "Cars?? I like cars; wanna work with my hands, I know which end of a spanner to hold (self maintained pushbikes, mototrial etc etc) Jobs [are] goin' in garage's all [the] 'time; car break, me fix; people need personal transport, I'll have work right??" So back to the FE, scratch for level 1 (aka f**k me is this remedial) motor veeeehikcle, claim maintenance grant (my own personal income, so f**kin sue me, least I wanted a job after it - rest of em were just transitioning between school and a joint career in dole-dom and knocking up skets whilst upside down in a hedge/the abandoned paper mill). Level 2 and eventually level 3 MV - rinse, repeat. Sep 2013 - world is less f**ked, barrow is still very f**ked. Been swindled as MV quals mean FA out in't big wide world. Nae jobs. SNAFU, if you like. Q: "...the actual f**k am i gonna do now??" A: Avoid JSA and the job shop like bubonic plaque that is. Graft, hustle and scheme. "it'll be like side gig on me side gigs (on me side gigs haha) - Short of sellin green, blow or brown, or myself, if there is 20 quid to be made than that f**ker is mine..." And I did. For 3 1/2 fecking yrs. I did my fair share of knowing the freeview EPG a little too intimately as well, i'll not lie. But that was the basic craic, the ethics were a little sketch at times, but I never stole or (diligently) knowingly handled owt 'hot', because, very distinct mitigating circumstances aside, thieves are c***s; particularly as the easy stuff to trade was bikes. I did (aid) recover a couple peeps high value items in this period though. FWIW my only run ins with the law are the "you can't ride that here & i'm gonna rifle through ur bags without grounds now lads" conversations & PNC checks forumites will know all too well. This all got stopped oct 2016 when nepotism got me the gig at [orange hardware chain that systemically shits on people]. The attitude went with me though. I worked my f**kin hole off. f**kin house bitch I was - "No!" doesn't buy "mmm shiny" - & the gas board don't take payment in fat lazy b*****d credits now does they? The only reason I'm affording plusnet right now to vent here in my indeed break is 'cos the (receeding) oh shit money that i've saved. So there u is... thick end of 12yrs in however fast people read that. Relocation just isn't an option on the grounds of domestic situ. On the face it would solve a lot of things. This I know acutely; but think of this end of the A590 as hotel California, and I didn't check in by choice. The oh shit fund has always taken precedent over driving lessons so travelling for work is difficult but I'll do it. Again; house bitch mentality - Work ~3 times as hard to achieve 1/2 of what others started with from birth, and have some sort of f**ked up masochistic-like sense of achievement @ the end of it because you feel you're "doing 'alright' now y'know". My lived experience of Barrow in a nutshell, if you like. Messrs Wilson, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown set and propagated the rot. Clegg, Camoron, Osborne, May, Hammond twisted the knife. Boris' lot haven't showed their hand yet, but the batpox is deffo going to f**k this area with a rusty scaffy pole and has f**ked me and my family member I was working alongside (who I now owe some reciprocal nepotism I reckon). Right, chow down this cup o' char then back to the jobs boards. TL:DR Next tuh f**k all f**kin no hope road once again.

@dann2707 Argh but you're in a part of the world with opportunity... I'm not rubbishing what you have to say, my life's not harder than yours or owt, however here in Barrow the economy (when you really knuckle down & think about it) and therefore the jobs market is either you work in the shipyard (easy street) or you work in a job that service's the shipyard/is inextricably linked to the yard - Temps or HR or bearing supplier or welding gas supply or ARCO safety supply for instance, or you work servicing the people of the shipyard when they flex their wallet/credit card/finance all the things around like being on the delivery crew of the 'you can do it' orange liveried shop I (was) attached to. When they don't spend it all in [whether] 'spoons or off to the trafford centre trip yo, that is. They'll be no resting on my laurels. Can't be. Round here you have to hussle like f**k, or else you end up/some practically choose from birth to sit around chaining amber leaf rizlas with or without the green/spice and lynx lager whilst looking like a walking thug life meme dressed in the JD sports catalog which may or may not have been fenced within a certain local drinking hole. When green stops muting the misery they turn to spice or a couple 'lines or bags o' brown. Google "egerton court barrow" or "ormsgill barrow" and the images thumbnails are all riot vans and police cordons and that just represents what the local chip wrapping reports in their excuse for journalism - about an 1/8th of an ounce (geddit?) of reality in other words, all the "good" parts. You couldn't print the real street level stuff. And that is a good chunk of the local authorities' social housing stock I appreciate your positivity dannananan, just you make sure you don't end up like a swan swimming upstream, mentally or otherwise. I know it won't pay life bills but you should get the fab stuff going as a side gig - it's just a fact of cars that you are either a lad that scratches and hussles the car onto the trackday with skill or favours, or you are the guy that works white collar for £££££ and pays someone to do it - either way there are more people with money than skill and you should be stood there in the car park/pits at blyton or cadwell going "orr yeah i cud do that front mount piping for yer; here's my business IG, check me out and come round the unit wen u wan it done". Small batch production turbo manni's or swap headers on an Ebay shop could be a thing too. Reet, I was only on a break, shouldn't be spending any more time whinging @ the speaking wall. Back to Indeed... Mind ow you go now.

Ten thirty this morning I got the DCMP. (Unsure if that is a universal phrasing, but that means "Don't come monday pal") I get shitcanned as of the 14th, hence, DCMP. Furkin boo-dee-ful. Can't face the job shop... Not just yet anyhow. That's a clusterf**k all to itself. Gonna be a hard winter.

@Ali C You won't be the last for this kinda thing. A (V funny but not exactly PG13) lad in Ireland I'm subbed to made a video about multiple times people/scambots started pinging the youtube-attached Gmail. Seems pertinent to post this.

This is why there is no aerodecks left, all the c4's are in everything else! (I've a want for an MC2 as a OEM+ bike and rider(s) mover-about'r)

I've some x517CD's off my MsIsle? They're currently chillin on eBay.

I've got to ring in at quarter to 3 this aft and have the "discussion" but I've took the view it is a foregone conclusion and this BS is due process. They are firing me and I have to pay for the phone call. Just sums up what a shoestring outfit they are. The only reason the two other depots can cover our workload is because the diy chain that the company I work for has the contract with, has reduced the scope of what the company I work(ed) for can do and is/has been for a long time constantly undermining both themselves and the contractors with contingencies and indecisive multiple trains of thought, all at once. If the DIY peoples would commit whole heartedly rather than undermine and ditther then all the delivery contractors would be running round like a dpd guy on a "avoiding that crash on't motorway so on a back lanes bomb bro" absolute friday afternoon tear. Honestly me and the lad I work(ed) with, who'll also be redundant, were spitballing how we were not been given a fair shake of the workload for ages, even before april; always felt we were being done when our workload was light and we'd getting chatting to the other boys (the ones who keep their van/job) at an away spot somewhere whilst queuing to load up and they'd not only be off their feet but doing/had done jobs/drops that should have been ours whilst concurrently we'd be given the early finish. The covid is just an excuse. It's telling I'll get the chop mid september right before the furlough scheme starts the taper out. Anyway, vent over. That was carthartic.

Well that's that f**ked then innit P45 inbound?

Going with a battery cable to a 340lph(ish) in tank or a 255 (etc.) up/in to a pot and then on to the rail? Or you going dual in tanks on one of them double hats? Would that 400 wheel involve water/meth for repeatability/peace of mind? This'd all be on s300 the K version I can't recall the name of as I type, as well I guess? I don't mean to interrogate, just dead curious. Be sick to see a CRV t-case in it and the back wheels spinning too, serving up Fiesta ST's for North Yorks moors mexico breakfast... haha.

sooo.... ~350 wheel k EG??? 30-76? 35-82? What's the rest of the setup/plan?

Am I to understand that the steerer is cut and therefore you cannot add more stackers? 20mm really isn't alot. If you have a 150*30/35 kicking around then it's worth a hour of your time to find out, the reach of a hex is not dissimilar to that of the style of high(er) BB pogo frame that would typically sport a 150*30 or 165*35 and be run with 0, 5 or 10 mm of stacker and ~95mm total rise bar. Instinctively I'd vote 120*17/20 or 130*25 and all the stackers but (unless you are going to get some uncut forks) you gotta p*ss with the c*ck y'got... This stem tool Alex Phred Stem chart link is what I use to give some graphical insight when debating such matters. Two things though: 1) Have your Javascript on or it won't work. 2) Remember that the "height" measurement is from a datum of your choosing, to the centre point of the steerer clamp. If you are comparing stems with 2 different steerer clamp heights, you must factor this in & adjust accordingly. So for example. In this context as you are not changing frame or headset I'd make the datum the top dust cover of the headset or bottom of the lowest stacker, then measure to the bottom of the top cap, then subtract half the steerer clamp value. Make a note in a text file/phone/paper/whatever, enter this value in the chart and repeat for the stem you are considering. in the pursuit of accuracy or best practice, whichever ruler/tape measure/vernier you use on the first measure is the one you use thereafter. Never a bad idea to use the 10CM mark as zero on tapes and rulers as the 0 mark is never actually 0. That 90*35 is far too small for you for definite. It looks like a kid bike stem Ciaran.

Nah It's your bike so it's your bikefit - if it requires a 180*35 stem and a set of pit bike bars for you to be comfy then the easy rider bar position it is. FWIW steerer extenders belong on trials bikes about as much as 3/32 chains with slotted plates and hollow pins. That is unless you want to put your dentist's kid through uni... EDIT: Oh and my 6'3 friend reminded me that when he had the same 2011 Fourplay that I have, his set up of 175mm cranks, thin section pedals, vertically set arcade bars on 110*35 system ex stem with 30mm stackers was both big & comfy as frig. I concour.

The original setup for the silver t-bird's looked like this. The black anodised framed ones ^ were the year after (2007) with the front disc brake but rear V brake (no 4 bolt mounts, no HS33's, no creepy crawler tyres, economic decisions appear to have been made). My recollection and educated guess would be that OEM set up used a crank with a higher (larger number/value, further away from the centreline of the bike), in order to use readily available and therefore cheaper per unit components such as a more standard 113mm or 118mm length BB axle and still make a respectable chainline in combination with the rear freewheel, but most importantly clear the what in other disciplines would be considered a daft wide rear tyre. Now might time to say that if you are expecting arrow straight chainline like you would expect to achieve on other types of bike you are on a hiding to nothing. Short chainstay, big tyre, narrow overlocknut distance, mod chainline will always be shi*e to a certain degree. Think fat bikes - clearance for daft 5" tyre = 83 to 100mm BB shell and big chainline value. But Mods don't have 148mm+ frame spacing/OLN distance to aid chainline. What you've done with the front freewheel set up is lowered the chainline value (the chain has gone toward the centreline of the bike), so my thoughts are that you now need to compensate with BB axle length. In this respect the idea that you have a 135mm ISIS or Square taper BB in there now is highly suspect (never heard of one). The increase of chainline value in the rear sprocket will be a good thing though unless the chain takes a snack full of seatstay/dropout. The frame was made around 24/18 ratio and you've 18/12 so real estate should be ample. 127, 127.5, 128mm BB's are the trials standard in front freewheel (FFW) applications, 122.5mm can also be used, but any narrower and you will likely run in to clearance issues between the freewheel and BB cup or BB shell. If you have anything less that a 122.5mm bb in there at there at the mo I'm amazed you aren't taking lumps out of the BB or frame (or have you not cinched the cranks down fully yet?) What is the complication with the two cranks, why can you not put the tensiles on the taper BB? or are the tensiles ISIS? The mention of the axle locknuts was a desperation time ploy that I have used before as you would move the hub therefore entire wheel and ultimately the tyre laterally 2mm toward the non drive side then though a combination of fiddlef**king around with dish, BB length, higher chainline value and, in last resort shit or bust thought process, adding drive side penny washers and ramming the wheel in, splaying the frame and spacing the driveside V-brake arm out so I can add stupid dish (Do not ever do this , least not to something that isn't a gas pipe like steel frame) Yeah yeah I'm a dodgy pr**k I know, needs must...

It'll be those bars. In comparison to mtb bends the arcade bars give the roomy sense of space that putting on BMX bars would. The stem tools like alex phred give an educated buying decision, but they can never convey "feel". Bar changes transform bikes. At 6'5 you might be one of these people that needs 40mm+ of stackers, a 60mm tall steerer clamp 120*17 stem and the arcade bar. If those are 170mm cranks a swap to 175mm would (as pictured) splay your feet further apart, lowering your arse vertically and straighten your lower back posture. Even thinner vertical section pedals would help in this regard. Wider, bigger bars will move your center of mass forward too, compounding this effect and make the effective reach longer. A stupid wide (830mm etc) bar would move your CM forward the most, but at the possible expense of posture (shoulder, neckache) and roomyness - the length of you arms hasn't changed so your sternem goes toward the stem in effective space. My point being that there will be a Goldilocks amount that all this logic can be applied.

1) What's the dish like pal? Excessively towards the drive side? It will be asymmetric, yes, but only a tad. It shouldn't look like a >9speed with the driveside spokes near vertical. The dead give away would be when you set the slaves up the arbitrary 1-2.5mm from the rim (with a straight and correctly set wheel) and the non drive side drive is pushed in with the driveside one having to be set pushed out off into the next postcode. 2) What length bottom bracket have you in there? From that angle I'd tek a stab that you need longer one or an offset one because you've changed the chainline measurement by adding the front free wheel set up from that donor bike (green 06 Tpro, right?). See Ref. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html. The rear chainline has been changed because the rear freewheel would have sat the chain more towards the hub's centreline, also. 3) When I had my one of those T-birds (bought new, factory spec, MY05/6 T-bird in silver, onza reggie wheel, creepy crawler, 24/18 gearing, KMC K710 Kool chain) the tyre was bloody close to the chain, close enough that I recall cutting across the school playing field trying to make curfew one time & enveloping the chain is boggy grot. 4) Do an idiot check. Start afresh, run through all all the stupid shit that should be "right" such as tweaked dropouts, bent wheel axle, wonky BB axle, wonky freewheel with four miles of runout, wheel moving in the dropout as you give it the bigun on the spanner etc. and everything else that gets f**ked on 2nd/3rd/14th hand bikes. You haven't a scooby what Cletus may have been in there before you on either bike/combination and now you are trying to modify and merge the two. Nothing is a given. 5) What locknuts are those? 3, 5 or 7mm? You're getting desperate by this point if you need to do this but if those are 5mm locknuts you can do some fudgeing swapping the NDS locknut for a 3mm and the DS for a 7mm, with or without the application of penny washer(s), longer BB and taking some dish out of the wheel. I do/have done faaarrr too much f**kin around with dirty old bicycles of all shapes and sizes that have had at least two goes round the sun and often many a 'tard piloting and spannering them >-] Keep updating. Ciaran.