JonMack

I like having a nice protein enriched strawberry milkshake when I get back from a long ride I agree with Andy too, I don't really like the taste, and I don't need to get drunk to have a good night out. The only thing I do "miss" is the ability to be able to talk to girls easier, and the fact it's hard to say "can I buy you a drink" when you don't drink yourself, but then again I don't think meeting girls on nights out is the best way to start a relationship, but I don't even wanna go down the conversational path that inevitably leads from that statement (where is...?).

But unlike "SRT" you don't have to show your commitment in any way Xing up at shows or tattoos just show other people your beliefs, because most straight edge people consider it to be something to be proud of in a society where alcohol cigarettes and even drugs are so readily available and not really frowned upon.

Cheers Mark. I've had it since the end of Jan. Nah it's just a squiggly over the i, just something my tattooist put in, I know it's not the best photo in the world, and you can see where it's been rubbed from when it was healing, but here's a close up, Straight Edge refers to a lifestyle and youth movement that started within the hardcore punk subculture whose adherents make a lifetime commitment to refrain from drinking alcohol, using tobacco products, and taking recreational drugs. The term was coined by the 1980s hardcore punk band Minor Threat in the song "Straight Edge". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_edge EDIT, Sam, I've just made something bold for you. Backs up my point of straight edge not being a phase, and being a decision for life, hence breaking edge.

I'm not really into hate edge. Yeah go on throw abuse at me for saying hate edge.

Yeah I'm writing edge sometimes and straight edge other times just to piss you off, did it work? I consider it to be a bad thing if someone does break edge, and say what you want about the phrase, that's just what it's generally called when someone who used to claim edge changes their mind, and I know I'm not the only one who thinks that way. Music means a lot to me, I like relating to lyrics, not because it's cool, but because I enjoy going to shows and screaming at the top of my lungs back at the band the words which I've felt impact my life. I don't give a shit what people think about the fact I'm edge, but I'm just explaining to the forum why I am. Thanks for personally insulting me by the way regarding my tattoo, I actually feel it's one of the best decisions I've ever made, and the reason I have it is for me, not for other people, hence why it's on my chest, an area which people rarely see, as I rarely ride topless, so I know it's there and other people don't unless I show them. Yeah you might not understand why it means a lot to me, but there's no need to be a total cunt about it. I'm sure there are other people who agree with you, but they're not being dicks, they're not directly insulting me. There's a difference between opinion and being ignorant, seems you haven't quite worked that one out yet.

Neither of my parents drink, nor does my sister, but they don't claim edge. I just found it easier to because of my surroundings. I was going out twice a week to pubs and clubs, and I guess because it's a "big deal" in the hardcore scene, and because when I was at uni I was mainly hanging out with people who were into hardcore, they cut me slack if we were out in town and I said I was edge. I know it sounds stupid but when I told people I "just didn't drink" they were like "oh go on have a pint, just one", and I got fed up with it so I started saying I was edge. Then I started listening to more straight edge bands and started to relate to the lyrics they were singing, and so I started to feel proud about my decision. As time went on, I got more into the music, more into the scene, and more into straight edge on the whole, until it became a big part of my life. I guess it's compatible to religion in a way, not that it's a religion at all, but it's a belief, I believe I can life a better life being edge, and that's just the way I feel about things, it's my opinion. I don't have a problem with people who don't live the way I do, and I won't try and force it down peoples throats, but I expect others to respect me and the choice I have made. After all I believe it to be a decision for life, it's not a passing trend, yeah it comes and goes, it will happen over the years, there will be an influx of straight edge kids, then they will die off because their favourite edge band broke up or whatever, so they'll all "sell out" but then you get people like me, who are so proud about it they'll get it tattooed on their bodies. Makes no sense really, but I'm tired so f**k it.

About the whole labelling thing, in the hardcore scene straight edge is a big deal, cos in reality that's where the name started out, so bands like to state that their edge, also there's a few real good bits on the Champion DVD about being edge and stuff, it's sick.

I found it easier to label myself as edge when I was going out in town, people tended to understand why I didn't drink when I told them that I was edge, rather than just saying "I don't drink", I also felt respected by others, and over time straight edge has become a huge part of my life due to the music I listen to

Radio 6

Well yeah drinks "available" to kids at that age but as Mark said, I'm talking about being able to buy drink legally, or being able to go out legally, and like Mark said, it actually makes a difference, I bet you could find plenty of 16 year olds who could go for 6 months without drink, but you take an 18/19/20 year old who's been going out regularly and it would probably be a lot harder for them, especially as it's socially accepted as the norm. I'm not putting an age limit on his lifestyle, and I think it's cool that young kids see the edge lifestyle as a good choice, but like I said, I've seen people crumble on their 18th birthdays, and "break edge" because they could, and chances are in reality they only claimed edge to seem rebellious and different, or because someone they knew/liked/were with claimed it (mainly talking about girls there), but then they soon just go along with the crowd and start drinking.

Are you intentionally trying to make edge kids look like a bunch of dicks, because I'm not down with that. We already get enough shit as it is, writing xSTRAIGHTEDGEx makes us look like a bunch of 14 year old girls. I just checked your profile and you're 16, surely that just makes you a law obiding citizen rather than "properly" edge? I know plenty of people who were edge up until they turned 18, now they all drink like f**k and are always going on about how awesome it is. I was 18 when I turned edge, I had been drinking socially for a year or so, but it got more serious when I went to uni, so I decided to give up, and after a year or so of staying "drug free" I considered myself to be edge. I'm not trying to be a willy but I don't think underage kids not drinking or following the "rules of straight edge" is "being edge". I actually came in here to ask, what's a "Trialster"?

Trib

True that. I don't give a f**k about 40s, blunts, and bitches, that's not the life I live, I like lyrics I can relate to, which with a lot of the MN stuff I feel I can. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy music mentioning those things, I just think "gangsta rap" is shit.

I hope that never happens to me R.I.P.

Not at all if it's gonna be no strings! = Exactly, we're not all gonna marry the first person we meet! and where are the pictures?!

Errrm, it's been on demonoid for ages, I downloaded it at the end of May.

Did anyone else read about the spectator death yesterday?

Good should Max. I was gonna include RJ but figured might as well just throw in Soul Position as its RJ and Blueprint! But I love RJD2, so sick!

SYG - Our Ethos: A Legacy To Pass On

Aesop Rock, El-P, Brother Ali, MF Doom, P.O.S., Mictlan, Cecil Otter, Sims, Dessa, Paper Tiger, (basically the entire Doomtree crew are amazing), CunninLynguists, Deltron 3030, Dilated Peoples, Jay-Z, Soul Position, Method Man + Redman, Talib Kweli, Nas, and of course Wu Tang, 36 Chambers is still one of my favourite albums of all time. Also, get hold of Jaydiohead, it's Radiohead/Jay-Z and it's sick.

FYS - So Much For The Afterglow I'm all about cover albums.

30m on the drops would be horrible!

This.

Calm it Chris I'm pretty sure it was a joke aimed at me being edge!

Hahaha not a f**king chance! I even try to be caffeine free