Well ive only used them on slight bodge because of the spring, but they seem good so far. The standard pads i got were poo, but im going to be running some rockpad greens on the rear hopefully soon. Can't wait to see how they turn out, hopefully better than my maggy p.s i ran it with a crappy shimano lever and cable, but was still alright. I'll be running it with a linear slic cable and SD7 lever.