only pads i trust with my life were heatsink reds and croco browns.......koxx bloxx browns were ok but had nowear near as much hold as crocos.......also the koxx bloxx green.....no bite at all but they never Ever sliped the hold was just amazing Steve@heatsink is helping me out with a new compound witch i think is real nice of him guess the yellows work on some setups really well and on others not so well so thanks for that steve Dave