i agree with janson my koxx rim really does rule, not asingle dent when i used to dent my dx32 a while ago (probbably due to grinded thin sidewalls and maby wasnt as smooth) but if youve got a good set of pads that work well on "soft" rims then your sorted. ive been using my majic pads on the same grind for almost 2 months and have had no need to grind they just hold nice. my next rim will be a onza hog only cause there eylated. or you can always buy my sunn doublewide off me with small flatspot...indurstructable ( well preety much) cheers....