trial-biker-ryan Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Righttttttttt....Basicly the deal is, - i ride a zhi zm1, custom spec...Im running and echo gold cog (18t) , and rear profile...Iv had the bike well over a year, and ever since the day iv got it, kmc chains have either been to long or to short (understand what im getting at?) I decided to get a gusset slink half link chain, £11 i think... the half links aloud me to overcome the problem.. Unfortunatly, a few days later the enire chain had just become full, and i mean full of stiff links.. Really stiff.. so i went back to using a kmc with one gusset half link init to make the chain fit properly on my bike, But, with the stress and stain of trials the half links always seem to pull and stretch to the point they snap in the middle, or become unbeleveably stiff...So basicly my question is..Where can i buy a decent half link chain that will DEFONATELY (sp?) Not stretch and become stiff, or snap?Cheers guys Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 If you cant take the slack out with chain tensioners then your only option is to change your gearing so the chain is a bit tighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I'm surprised you can't use tensioners to get around this.Maybe a shadow conspiracy one? Halflink chains are known to stretch quite a bit. Apparently. I've never snapped mine, a reluctant one, and I know a guy who uses one on his zoot, dunno which make though. His is in no danger of snapping. I don't think it's stretched much either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 If there's half an inch of movement in the rear dropouts then you should be able to get the chain tensioned with a standard chain. As for the links all going stiff - does this happen the day after the chain gets wet or dirty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 My KMC Kool chain has been really good (touch wood) and has been under a lot of pressure for various reasonsYou seen DCD (Daves Chain Devices or something)? they might help...look em up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 normal single speed chain link on the montys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycholist Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 If something like the 74 Kingz will fit you could use one of them - Tartybikes is inaccessible at the moment, but it's probably here: http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/product.php?id=10008 - Keeps the chain tensioned without having to keep moving the brakes around too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 them shadow thingys are supposed to be reet, but can you not just add an extra notch onto your snail cams or something?cant be that hard to set up.Matx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 All half-link chains stretch unfortunately, but the Gusset ones are pretty shitty at any rate. If you can get a single link from a Shadow Conspiracy Interlock V2 chain and run that it might be alright.What's your chain-line like? Can't remember if you said in your post, but that's often a cause for chains eating shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladd Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 His chain line is fine, and even when you take the wheel fully back in the drop outs the chain is still loose, if you take a link out its to short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oli Smith Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 gusset are wank. I snapped mine first ride. I use a shadow conspiricy , got it off ebay or chainreactioncycles.com mate. get one there ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 I've never snapped mine, a reluctant oneYea my reluctant half link was amazing for 6 months...ish? Maybe a bit more? But when it started snapping it really went badly, (aka 4 times in 1 ride... or more, i lost count) on the upside it snapped 7 times before i brought a new one, but after 1 link gone they were all shot, well worth the money though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial-biker-ryan Posted July 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 them shadow thingys are supposed to be reet, but can you not just add an extra notch onto your snail cams or something?cant be that hard to set up.MatxAhh, i would.. but when the chains long, and i put it to right tention, the wheels to far back, for the brake mounts.. get me? Cheers so far guys?Also this shadow chain looks pretty good, whats the odd on this streching and becoming all stiff links again? Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearded Midget Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 i have the whole chain tension issue aswell on my dob. im just living with a slack chain rather than risking my face with another half link chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 What gear are you running? 18/?Running that half link in a normal chain ends up directing stress upon that link mainly causing it to go. Well that's the theory anyway, and it's been backed up from examples anyway.Have you tried modifying your dropouts? Get a file and cut into that dropout more.How long were you running the chains for generally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 All half-link chains stretch unfortunately, but the Gusset ones are pretty shitty at any rate. If you can get a single link from a Shadow Conspiracy Interlock V2 chain and run that it might be alright.What's your chain-line like? Can't remember if you said in your post, but that's often a cause for chains eating shit.Yep, the interlock is pretty damn good. I used a single interlock half link in my KMC for over a year without any problems. Meant my chain tension was much nicer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Running that half link in a normal chain ends up directing stress upon that link mainly causing it to go. Well that's the theory anyway, and it's been backed up from examples anyway.It'll stretch fractionally more than the rest of the links in the chain, but that's pretty much it? Haven't snapped a single half-link when I've run them in my 510HX chains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trial-biker-ryan Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 What you thinks the best bet then really?Full shadow half link chain? Or wil this also just strech and become all stiff llinked up?Im running 18:12 gear ratio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 I reckon there's a problem somewhere. A 353mm chainstay should work perfectly with 18/12. Maybe you should measure your chainstays to check. I can't actually think of sprocket wear coming into play either. Maybe just buy a cheap chain and see if that works? I'm confused, the 510hx is the best chain for under £10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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