1337 Trials Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Hello. Im running 150mm (Bomber Dropp offs 150mm) and want to upgrade to either Pike's which go to 140mm or the rockshox domains which are 180mm. Im currently running a frame which is recommended for 110mm forks max. Can you recommend some good hardtails for use with 150mm forks? I don't think you can get hardtails for 180mm forks can you so it looks like ile be going for Pike's. Edited June 19, 2012 by 1337 Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Well a Ragley Bagger 288 or Troof can both take 170mm, most of their other frames can take 150mm. Can also grab On One 456 for less than 200 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 Trials Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Thanks Matt (im guessing thats your name by your username). I will be buying second hand as well to save money .Ile then sell my da bomb grenade frame as its in brilliant condition. I do like the look of the Troof Do most frames designed for 150mm + forks have 1.5 steerer tubes? Edited June 19, 2012 by 1337 Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Santacruz chameleon? Designed to take up to 150 although 120-140 is the better length apparantly, Im using Z3 QR20s on mine and it seems perfect. Not sure in the older models will suit the same fork length, mine is a very early mk2 (october '03 I got it) but I dont think the geometry changed greatly, you will need to be looking at a mk2 at least if youre running disks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 Trials Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Santacruz chameleon? Designed to take up to 150 although 120-140 is the better length apparantly, Im using Z3 QR20s on mine and it seems perfect. Not sure in the older models will suit the same fork length, mine is a very early mk2 (october '03 I got it) but I dont think the geometry changed greatly, you will need to be looking at a mk2 at least if youre running disks. I will keep an eye out for one of these. They look pretty smart. Im running single speed at the moment but hope to change to 9 speed soon in order to ride trails etc. As im buying second hand I am noticing a lot of the frames are pretty rare to find second hand so ile keep an eye out for a few suitable frames then buy the one which comes up second hand. EDIT: just seen the price and I wont be getting a Santacruz Chameleon Edited June 19, 2012 by 1337 Trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 True they aint cheap but you might pick up an old frame for cheap these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 Trials Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah ile keep an eye out. Still got a fair bit of trials parts to sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Cotic BFe? That's what I'd get. You have to bear in mind that geometry changes dramatically on a hardtail. If you hit a large drop and bottom out your forks, you can expect a big change in headangle. E.g. If the head angle is 68 degrees at 140mm, with the forks compressed it's going to be more like 73 degrees, considerably steeper and you'll get into trouble if you hit something at that stage. On a full sus you don't get such a pronounced change like that. Cotic reckon the Bfe is just about OK with 160mm forks. I reckon this would be stupid for the above reasons, but it's happy with 140 at any rate. http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/136858/ lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 I've got a prototype Stanton Slackline that i'm running Fox 36's on. I'll be selling it in the next week or so. One of these: http://www.stantonbikes.com/content/slackline-853-available-now in 16.5 and in cherry red, it's identical just has no stickers. Bloody lovely frame just going back to a full-sus bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 i use a trailstar2 with 140mm forks to race DH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsmax04 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Ragley! Im using my MMMbop with 150mm Revelations, although I ran 140mm pikes for years fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 Trials Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 I've got a prototype Stanton Slackline that i'm running Fox 36's on. I'll be selling it in the next week or so. One of these: http://www.stantonbi...3-available-now in 16.5 and in cherry red, it's identical just has no stickers. Bloody lovely frame just going back to a full-sus bike. Ile give that a miss bud because ive got some anodized red parts. I do like them ragley's so ile keep an eye out for one. I may have found a full time job so if thats the case ile buy forks now then save a little and get a full sus frame I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theta2 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 I have a chameleon mk2 frame which I would sell for £150 posted, it only just arrived but a knee injury means I won't be able to ride it when it's built up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 Trials Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Ile give that a miss bud. 1. I have red parts 2. I still have a lot of trials stuff to sell before I get £150 and I only wanted to spend £100/£120 really. Just something that can support the current 150mm forks I have and the ones I hope to buy soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Isn't that a mk 1 chameleon? Thought the mk 2 had the treat disk tab on the fame rather than the bolt on bracket and the calliper below the chainstay. If that's not the case then I must have a mk 3? Is it the usa or taiwan made frame? Either way I would get it for 150 quid if it comes with the disk adaptors, can always repaint the frame if you really don't like the red and blue combo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 Trials Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Isn't that a mk 1 chameleon? Thought the mk 2 had the treat disk tab on the fame rather than the bolt on bracket and the calliper below the chainstay. If that's not the case then I must have a mk 3? Is it the usa or taiwan made frame? Either way I would get it for 150 quid if it comes with the disk adaptors, can always repaint the frame if you really don't like the red and blue combo How much is to get a frame professionally painted? Any links to any sites that do it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forteh Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Not sure on cost but you should be able to get it powdercoated for 30-40 quid depening on how well you know the powdercoaters and if they will do it on a run of current colour they are using. If you want it black or white (or one of the more common powdercoat colours) then you will more likely get a faster, cheaper turn around, phone around you local coaters and see what colours they commonly have running through; they should be able to advise on the cost and timescale for a different colour. They might also be able to strip the frame aswell, alternatively you could do that yourself to save a few quid. Ask them what prep work you need to do, being an older chameleon, I dont think the paint was very thick so should come off pretty easily with nitromors. That said, whats wrong with a blue frame and red components? Edited June 24, 2012 by forteh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualjoe Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Ile give that a miss bud. 1. I have red parts 2. I still have a lot of trials stuff to sell before I get £150 and I only wanted to spend £100/£120 really. Just something that can support the current 150mm forks I have and the ones I hope to buy soon Not gonna lie, but this is the best frame for 150mm forks. Used to fly past the DH'ers on this thing with SO much confidence! You can have it for £80 if you like Edit: Good times.. Edited June 24, 2012 by casualjoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337 Trials Posted June 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I need to gather the money first really. I have two trials wheels and a hope trials to put on ebay so when ive sold both of these I should have £150 if im lucky Ile pass on that Joe, thanks for the offer anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I've got a prototype Stanton Slackline that i'm running Fox 36's on. I'll be selling it in the next week or so. One of these: http://www.stantonbi...3-available-now in 16.5 and in cherry red, it's identical just has no stickers. Bloody lovely frame just going back to a full-sus bike. Juuust out of question, what made you decide on that frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigjames Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) Juuust out of question, what made you decide on that frame? Combination of reviews (all seem to be pretty glowing and positive) that it got, materials it's made from (completely Reynolds steel) so it's reasonably light but really strong and the geo; It's perfect for forks between 120-160mm of travel depending on how you want to ride it. It rides really really nicely going up and down, only reason I'm changing is I've got given a full sus frame. Edited June 27, 2012 by craigjames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TROYston Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Combination of reviews (all seem to be pretty glowing and positive) that it got, materials it's made from (completely Reynolds steel) so it's reasonably light but really strong and the geo; It's perfect for forks between 120-160mm of travel depending on how you want to ride it. It rides really really nicely going up and down, only reason I'm changing is I've got given a full sus frame. Hmm how much are you looking for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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