Marco V. Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 Hello there! I'm looking around for brakes. I've an Inspired Arcade (red mirror frame from 2017/2018) and i just broke the front MT5. I don't want to repair it because of plastic things on the lever and i would prefer to substitute them. What's your opinion about brakes? - Hope trial tech 4 - Stay with MT5 but with mt7 lever - Hayes dominion a4 - others? Thank you all in advance! Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt24. Posted September 26, 2023 Report Share Posted September 26, 2023 Stay with mt5 and a Shimano lever. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but assume you could buy a deore lever and it would work fine and be a fair bit stronger than magura levers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szymon Posted September 27, 2023 Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 Shigura is very strong. However the brake lever is very spongy. I had one day and went back to MT5 with HC3. The question is what kind of brake lever feel does Marco like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco V. Posted September 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 Thanks guys! I've read something about Shigura and seems most of people loves them. I afraid that the servo brake system make them spongy or with a weird finger feedback and @Szymon kinda confirmed... To me i Just want a brake that Is powerful, that grants that when i Land on rear wheel (or similar) It doesn't slide. With strong/solid lever. With kinda modulable Power for manuals stoppies and so on but that works in on/off mode when needed for other things. I'm fine with magura caliper i think... but i don't want anymore the lever to broke Just by pressing It when bouncing on front wheel, that's simply Dangerous. Hope brakes looks fine because solid and people says they're indestructibles. Maybe too much on/off? Or are they pretty modulable? Never tried Looking also at the @Ali C videos, Hayes brakes seems to be something in the middle... but never tried too so, basically too many option i never tried :) that's why i Need some help and feedback from you guys :) thanks a lot in Advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco V. Posted September 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 Oh, in case i'll take a try with Shigura, which lever do you suggest to buy? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szymon Posted September 27, 2023 Report Share Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Marco V. said: Oh, in case i'll take a try with Shigura, which lever do you suggest to buy? thanks The cheapest M6100 Deore. One more thing. The clamp is in the center of the pump. My handlebar is shortened and the lever almost doesn't fit. The clamp falls out when bending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Song Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 I'm going to bump this thread. What are people's opinion on Hope Tech 4 V4, E4, or Trialzone? More specifically modulation I am coming from using Avid BBDBs, Shimano M820 Saints on my street trials bike. While they are awesome for locking and biting, they are hard to modulate, especially for doing something like manuals. I am picking up a Inspired complete with Hope Trial Zone, and I am thinking of switching my Avid BBDB to Hope brakes on my second bike to have easier time doing maintenance with both bikes having Hope brakes. I would be okay giving up on a bit of bite to have more modulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 4 hours ago, Sam Song said: I'm going to bump this thread. What are people's opinion on Hope Tech 4 V4, E4, or Trialzone? More specifically modulation I am coming from using Avid BBDBs, Shimano M820 Saints on my street trials bike. While they are awesome for locking and biting, they are hard to modulate, especially for doing something like manuals. I am picking up a Inspired complete with Hope Trial Zone, and I am thinking of switching my Avid BBDB to Hope brakes on my second bike to have easier time doing maintenance with both bikes having Hope brakes. I would be okay giving up on a bit of bite to have more modulation. I recently picked up a set of Hope Tech 4 Trialzones and loving them, the modulation is fantastic compared to my previous Avid BB7's with organic pads which worked very well but very on/off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 (edited) I can comment on the T4 V4s, would not recommended them for trials. Power and modulation is good, but lever feel a bit mushy, and they had issues with fluid not being able to flow back quick enough too, so the lever would pump up if you pumped it in quick succession. More annoyingly they started leaking pretty quickly past the calliper piston seals. Were repaired by Hope twice, to no avail, after which I eventually got a refund. Back on Shigura's, which are trouble free, if a touch grabby. Edited May 9 by Daan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Song Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, The Dark Knight said: I recently picked up a set of Hope Tech 4 Trialzones and loving them, the modulation is fantastic compared to my previous Avid BB7's with organic pads which worked very well but very on/off. Awesome! I will go with Trial Zones then. With my second bike, it may also be used for occasional MTB riding with a long seatpost, would it be something that could ruin the Trial Zone caliper since it is not designed for that? More specifically the heat generated from a long descent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Song Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 6 hours ago, Daan said: I can comment on the T4 V4s, would not recommended them for trials. Power and modulation is good, but lever feel a bit mushy, and they had issues with fluid not being able to flow back quick enough too, so the lever would pump up if you pumped it in quick succession. More annoyingly they started leaking pretty quickly past the calliper piston seals. Were repaired by Hope twice, to no avail, after which I eventually got a refund. Back on Shigura's, which are trouble free, if a touch grabby. The lever pumping and the mushy feeling may be by design for its MTB use, but there is no excuse for leaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szymon Posted May 10 Report Share Posted May 10 Does anyone know how the tests of the new Magura brake lever are going? Last year someone had a brake lever similar to HS33 installed with MT caliper. Unfortunately, I don't remember who😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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