Michael Hardman Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Yeah this thread is worthless without pics :- Let me go get changed into something more gym orientated. The 80kg on the pull down was jsut a one off I was testingthe water, I know its weigh too heavy for me and normally I am on doing 55kg on narrowest grip and 50 on wideest grip. My shoulder and back muslces need some work. I need to broaden my shoulders now so thats what Ill be doing for next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Im in school ATM, but seeing as all you will more than likly be taller than me, you will look bigger B) I dont look big when you just look at me (well i dont think i do :- ) but when im working out, everyone says my arms n stuff look huge :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Im in school ATM, but seeing as all you will more than likly be taller than me, you will look bigger :- Is that why tall people can weigh more and be slimmer? You have it the wrong way round, you don't get many stocky tall people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Im a wee midget at 5 ft 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 on another note, how many girls find a 20 + yr old doin tricks on a bike attractive ?? most of them will tell u to grow up and would be embarised to tell there friends that thir bf rides a pushbike Yes, but I'm doing this for fun and because I enjoy it, whereas you've said yourself you're doing it to try and become attractive to people. If someone would be 'embarrased' to know me because I ride a bike, they can go f**k themselves. If they don't like a major facet of who I am, then it's unlikely we're going to be friends anyway :- My life doesn't solely revolve around how other people see me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-king Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 steroids are only said to be bad because the goverment have spread bad roumors about the stuff to put people off... Just like Magic Mushrooms!!! what actual harm do they do?! :- erm...let me think....hair loss, kidney damage, liver damage, severe achne (most commonly on the back) lower sperm count, can lead to mood swings/behaviour problems..... thats about all i can remember off the top of my head so yeah, no harm done at all B) i dont now much about the mr universe contests, but natural body builders are heavily drug tested (hence why companies like maximuscle, weider, york etc carry out drug tests for banned substances on all supplement batches) and terror-error, i would love to see you lat pull down 20 reps on 110 kg (thats at least 40kg more than your body weight), you wouldn't manage 1, i dont give a shit how strong you say you are, the heaviest i do is 10 reps on 63kg (and that isnt particuarly easy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Not trials-forum ruler anymore, its trials-forum scales :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 and terror-error, i would love to see you lat pull down 20 reps on 110 kg (thats at least 40kg more than your body weight), you wouldn't manage 1, i dont give a shit how strong you say you are, the heaviest i do is 10 reps on 63kg (and that isnt particuarly easy) lol, I would love to see myself do that aswell! like i said, im sure the stickers on the weights are TOTALLY wrong, because, the weight only feels like 30KG.... I can only do 55KG max on the "proper" one on the middle floor on the gym. I think the stickers are wrong for the women, "i can pull down 80KG" but its really like 20 muahaha Is that why tall people can weigh more and be slimmer? You have it the wrong way round, you don't get many stocky tall people. I know loads of people that are atleast 6.4ish foot that have a massive body build.... Im only 5.4foot, i dont think i look "stocky" at all :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I know loads of people that are atleast 6.4ish foot that have a massive body build.... Im only 5.4foot, i dont think i look "stocky" at all :- But if you put the same weight on a smaller person they'd look gargantuan B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 erm...let me think....hair loss, kidney damage, liver damage, severe achne (most commonly on the back) lower sperm count, can lead to mood swings/behaviour problems..... thats about all i can remember off the top of my head Beer will give you... hair loss, kidney damage, liver damage, get you fat, lower your sperm count, give you mood swings/make you violent, give you cancer Yet how many people do you know who've f**ked themselfs up with all those things from a few pints? The fact is, yes they CAN do that to you, but you google ANY drug, or substance you can put into your body, including weed, alcohol, tabaco etc and they all have these massive lists of so called 'effects' which are for the most part, hype - and though are all true to an extent aren't be all and end all side effects. You'd have to ABUSE steriods over a long time to get those kind of side effects (other than the lower sperm count and mood swings which are instant side effects of being on steriods, but 100% correct themselfs at the end of your cycle). There is a big difference between USE and ABUSE, not just in steriods, in anything. i dont now much about the mr universe contests, but natural body builders are heavily drug tested The Pro leages are just as heavily tested. There is a way around pretty much every single test currently given, every current substance has a counter substance which will make it read negative on tests. But it's a very murky area, they know they are using, but turn a blind eye - the drug tests are very lax, more for show than anything - so they conform to health and safety standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMonkey Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 The Pro leages are just as heavily tested. There is a way around pretty much every single test currently given, every current substance has a counter substance which will make it read negative on tests. But it's a very murky area, they know they are using, but turn a blind eye - the drug tests are very lax, more for show than anything - so they conform to health and safety standards. So how many in the like main bodybuilding contests are 100% natural? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 So how many in the like main bodybuilding contests are 100% natural? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Yeah, none. Unless it's a 'natural comp', which are low profile more local events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 alexx , have you ever used steroids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 alexx , have you ever used steroids? Nah... I've tried stuff thats not legal, but never injectables / roids. I'm too young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 fair do's you're the guy with 0% body fat arent you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 not quite 0% lol :- but yeah, thats me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Haha awesome. how much do you weigh? im 5% body fat, weigh 11 stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 5% is very low. Thats pretty much pro bodybuilder bodyfat levels (4ish%), around 5% you have rock solid abs and can see the direction of the fibres in your muscles etc. Bodyfat calipers / testers get very in-accurate on the lower scale, its not uncommon for them to say 10-12% as half that. The national average in the UK for males is 16.4% bodyfat. Random Example < bad photo, but just the first one I found of 5%, thats one of the guys off a forum I post on. Thats pretty much what 5% looks like, infact I'd say thats closer to 5.5%. I change between about 5% - 6% depending on the time of year. I'm currently 155lb so if my maths is right 11.8 stone. Which is a stone down on my weight this time last year, bleh... but one thing you learn over time with bodybuilding is weight means NOTHING. Litrally nothing, you can have one 150lb guy at 6'0 who is 150% the size of another 150lb guy at 6'0. It's all about ratios and makeup, even two people of the same bodyfat and weight can be massively different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 my bad , i remember an old thread about you and someone mentioning 0% 5 is mental im something rediculous like 30-35 ( fat b*****d!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 5% is very low. Thats pretty much pro bodybuilder bodyfat levels (4ish%), around 5% you have rock solid abs and can see the direction of the fibres in your muscles etc. Bodyfat calipers / testers get very in-accurate on the lower scale, its not uncommon for them to say 10-12% as half that. The national average in the UK for males is 16.4% bodyfat. Random Example < bad photo, but just the first one I found of 5%, thats one of the guys off a forum I post on. Thats pretty much what 5% looks like, infact I'd say thats closer to 5.5%. I change between about 5% - 6% depending on the time of year. I'm currently 155lb so if my maths is right 11.8 stone. Which is a stone down on my weight this time last year, bleh... but one thing you learn over time with bodybuilding is weight means NOTHING. Litrally nothing, you can have one 150lb guy at 6'0 who is 150% the size of another 150lb guy at 6'0. It's all about ratios and makeup, even two people of the same bodyfat and weight can be massively different. lol yeah thats exactly what i look like :- maybe inaccurate, ive always been really skinny though, cant be more than 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted November 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Lol, i look nowt like that. Theres a pic of me earlier on in the tread B) Nah, honestly, i think im round about 20(ish)% body fat, that why its hard to see my muscles when im not working out :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Nah, honestly, i think im round about 20(ish)% body fat, that why its hard to see my muscles when im not working out :) On this crap special key body fat reader i'm 14.7% body fat. And i'm quite skinny. So to the person who said they were 5% might want to meaure up again. (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Elding Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 I'm 12% and my BMI is 22 or something. This really short thin guy in our year was 8% in year 7! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 On this crap special key body fat reader i'm 14.7% body fat. And i'm quite skinny. So to the person who said they were 5% might want to meaure up again. (Y) Nozmeister or me? Since I don't know Nozmeister he may well be, but he just posted up there he thinks he might be more like 10% (which I must say is still pretty damn lean). I know for a fact I'm currently at about 6%, but it was prettymuch my LIFE for 2 years, lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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