Ramraider Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Hey guys, Well I have been out of the MTB scene for quite some time. I'm now @ uni and bored of sitting around the flat all day so decided to dust off the old bike. (I am a complete noob @ trials and can just remember how bunny/side hop. ) I have an old DMR Trailstar frame with some Judy C forks on it. It has some half decent Avid v's for brakes and some Mavic Ex721 rims and I wondered:1. Is this ok as it is to get started before i replace it with something better? or2. Should I replace the Judy's with a rigid trials fork in order to reduce the weight? and also3. Do the brakes need beefing to say HS33's??Forgot to mention its a 14" frame Cheers,Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurftrial Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I dont think it matters whether its trials specific. but it could help maybe to get rigid forks and some maguras maybe just the rear!...............smurfy. hope i helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Get some ridgid trials forks and some decent vee brake pads from Heatsink (I think thats the site)And then replace things what brake, or are holding you back..Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 It's not the bike you ride its how you ride it.cheers from stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padarik Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 (edited) It's not the bike you ride its how you ride it.cheers from stu fair enuf saying that but it has to ride ok to be able to ride trials on it! mate id get sum rigid forks n sum heatsink pads or spanish fly/ plazmatic vee pads from cleanbikes ( www.cleanbikes.co.uk ) and if u havnt got a bash ring get one helps alot thankss meee Edited March 4, 2006 by padarik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Well the frames standover height will be low enough to start learning to ride trials on.I would say don't change the forks. this is based on the fact that The Trailstar2 works best with 90-110mm travel forks so if you were to fit rigid forks i would imagine it is going to drop you bb height so low it could be a hinderance, you won't really see the gain of rigid forks til you progress.The main things will be get a bashring, shorten your chain so it doesn't bouce all over the place, or if you have the version with horizontal dropouts you can ingnore that. Tune your brakes up so they react quickly with good hold, this may be best done by purchasing some good brake pads (see heatsinkbikes.com for suitable vee pads) just for the rear though, standards will be fine on the front.I would probably change your tyre to a beefy knobbler of a tyre instead of the dirt tyre i would imagine will be already on your dmr trailstar, go for something like a maxxis minion/high roller in the biggest size you can fit in your frame.That should sort you for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 You might wana replace the forks (not so much for thw weight, but for the feel of the bike) unless you plan on going realy big, where the suspension could help a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 (edited) fair enuf saying that but it has to ride ok to be able to ride trials on it! mate id get sum rigid forks n sum heatsink pads or spanish fly/ plazmatic vee pads from cleanbikes ( www.cleanbikes.co.uk ) and if u havnt got a bash ring get one helps alot thankss meee Haha Paddy learn to type you fool Yeah, as people have said, Get some decent vee pads, And to be honest you could stick with the susp for now, I know Dan Jones ran it for a while and he rode like a bad ass still.Tom Edited March 4, 2006 by Tom Booth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 It's not the bike you ride its how you ride it.cheers from stu I don't go by this really... Now in a way that say.. a brilliant bike makes a brilliant rider... ...I mean it like - You can't ride trials on a tandem. Sorta thing... Anyhoo... It might be best to get some money saved up, and build up a trials bike. At a guess, the DMR will only hold you back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the judge Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 if you were to fit rigid forks i would imagine it is going to drop you bb height so low it could be a hinderanceGood point but some dmr trailblades might be ok as I think they are designed to accommodate for suspension geometry (i.e. longer than normal forks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padarik Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 fook it buy sum decent vee pads n keep sus on front and buy manifesto! get it youl know why thanks mee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff... Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I would say it does matter if you're riding a big xc bike or something it's alot harder to throw it about compared to say the average beginers bike like a t-raptor or a t-pro you can still learn but it will be abit harder.But if you can mange to learn on an xc bike you can easy ride a trials kyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmt_oli Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Trailstars used to be a common sight with trials riders at one point! ahh back in the day!make sure everything is in reasonable nick, tight and lubed. either get new pads and set up you rear V-brake, or get a rear maggy. I would also reccomend some rigid forks, but as has been said- long ones.Just get out there and ride, theres loads of info on here, and youl prob find some people in your area! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ward Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 Simple answer is no- you don't need a trials specific bike for trials. But taking your bike i would buy some rigid forks- not sure which because im not a stock rider but onza do some gudun's i think.Some new brake pads because usualy avids are quite good- just tune them e.g. pads, and cabe should make it good.sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvtrial Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 You don't need a trials-specific bicycle to start, but as always it's a bit "easier" to ride on a trials-specific! But, if I was you, I would start with a normal bicycle, with not too high seat-tube and stuff like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earsy104 Posted March 5, 2006 Report Share Posted March 5, 2006 i started on a rig which consisted of maggies atomic labz frame marozocchi exr supra's a halo sas rear wheel and d521 front and a shitty shimano 44teeth crank...that did me for about 6months until it broke i loved that bike :( anway....erm yer so it doesnt really matter or it didnt for me as you get better you will decided what restricts your expertees and so on.........will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alun Goch Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 One thing to bear in mind, if you're planning on buying a trials bike anyway, is it worth spending on this bike? I'd get some brake-pads though, they shudn't be to dear.AlunP.S Good luck! Hope you enjoy trials! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramraider Posted March 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 Thanks for all of the replys guys!Ok I have been looking at some trials bikes online and it strikes me that getting a 26" that is half decent is a lot more expensive than getting a half decent 20".I have been looking a the t-raptor but don't really like its looks The t-pro looks pretty sweet and I think is more 'flicky' (as I have been reading) but is harder to get up large objects on?My question is this:Would either a 26" or 20" bike restrict me from learning certain aspects of trials? Or is it just simply a matter of taste? I have never ridden a 20" bike and am guessing this would be a good place to start?Cheers,Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted March 6, 2006 Report Share Posted March 6, 2006 speaking from the point of view of someone who has done this. everyones saying to put rigids on, dont you want your bb to be at least verging on level otherwise it will be rocky to ride :Pput a spinny gear on, then get a decent brake. pukka!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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