Luke Rainbird Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 wouldn't loose an arm of a leg over itLovelyChris and Leech know where it's at! Nice and street, perfect for Akkers, although to be honest he could ride Pete Wright in the Worlds and win! Mmm, homotrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 I love that titanium color, looks really smart and different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 its a bit longer than what you think, but its lush!!! weather it be 1060 or 1090 Akkers can bunnyhop and ride anything just like John Peacock said"he could make a tandem dance!!!"Waynio.......................it does look so much better in the flesh, and it feels o so light!!!!its like "Illegal" to have a bike that light, he just needs the helium in his inna tubas!it will fly man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 ooooooooooo whap it out mr ackrigg, and cos you started the topic porter you and wayne can whap it out and we can all get it on.ill bring towler (that'll convince wayne) and james you know you want my northern stuff OH AND NICE BIKE as long as it does the duty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Holy cow! That's the most perfect trials bike ever. Looks like spot-on geometry, with a proper seat-tube... and ti!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Its nice, clean, smart etc. but not amazing for me im afraid. Nice to see no pointless cnc shizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Any more info on the geometry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Just out of interest, who made it? And I don't mean which company's stickers are on it - which factory did it come from? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Rainbird Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 I would imagine that the guys at Charge would have hand built it themselves, although if they go into mass production (hmm) then perhaps will go elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehukatti Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 does anyone know whether it's one-off custom frame for chris or are there plans to sell it to public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 1 off..................@ moWaynio..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEavoLa Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 IWANTTHATBIKENOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.what he said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicH_87 Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 looks amazing, frame would cost about £800-£900 though i assume?its not 2 grands worth of amazing for me, but it does look smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robonatomz Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 looks like all the old pashley's and similar frames from years ago. so much for product development.rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny B Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 thank god somebody said it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 nothing wrong with double diamond and a seat in fact, its one of the strongest shapes a frame can be made (and the best looking ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny B Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 i know that but not exactly with the times frmaes have gone lower to giver the ability to do the bigger moves and the more extreme techniques without smackin your legs against the bike lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 looks like all the old pashley's and similar frames from years ago. so much for product development.rob.Yeah, and the geometry and materials are exactly the same. Well spotted. It's exactly the same frame. Obviously if the top-tube was all curvy it'd ride 10x better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robonatomz Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 sounds to me like your i bit too sarcastic. woop de doo basil, its made of ti. its justlike a steel frame but twice the price, somebody get me a tissue! as for the geo it dont look anything speacial. and its got a seat how does a seat help in any way. you cant get of the side of the bike and realy lean it over if it has a seat. I have a bike with a seat, Its for doing cross country.it looks less of a trials frame and more a street frame. sorry i just cant get exited over it, seen it done loads of times before. i prefer to see somthing new, like the onza duel frame and the new danny b frame, even the new monty mr comas was on the other week.rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 So by some peoples logic surely all cars should be single seat carbon fibre super cars doing 10mpg 'costhey have better performance? Its all about what you like in a frame. I notice much of this "so much for product development" crap is coming from onza buffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 look who it is designed for? and who it is designed by? simplicity is the key, why make something so complicated? when you can have something so simple? that does a job as simple as any other trials machine?AGAIN boys and girls, opinions are flying, yes some people like it and yes some people hate it, but dont worry, im not going to make you pay out £800/900 for the frame. you DONT HAVE TO BUY IT (ion fact YOU WILL never be able to get hold of it)Waynio......................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sameer Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Oh my f**king God.26mhz meets DeSalvo meets Seven Cycles with a pinch of the old Cannondale Ashton. Lurvely stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Its probably made by Ora Engineering in Taiwan as there are very few manufacturers in the world who make titanium frames ( even less now that Morati have ceased production in the Czech republic - they made some prototypes for us a few years ago). Titanium is still a controlled metal and you don't just wack one together in your garage. It requires expensive and difficult techniques to fabricate and you cannot just produce cnc parts to weld into it like you can aluminium. Thats why the frame looks like it does, as all you can really vary is the sizes and angles. You still end up with a basic diamond shape. We have had long discussions with Ora in Taiwan to produce a titanium competition T-Rex but we have always hit problems.Top class riders like Chris will handle a frame like that without causing too many problems and ride it well. Let some of the rest of you loose on it though and its a recipe for disaster.The problems with Titanium and Trials area, Its expensive, in both materials and construction.b, Your building blocks are basically tubes.c, The chainstay into bottom bracket is always going to be a weak point because of (.Name me a trials frame, with the exception of some steel frames, that doesn't have a cnc b/b yoke in some form. That is because tubes welded straight into the b/b on a trials frame will eventually fail because of the constant battering they receive.I will be interested to see if it gets into production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Anyone remember chris's first ever onza prototype? Which he rode at bike show.looks like the same geo as that.liking it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Name me a trials frame, with the exception of some steel frames, that doesn't have a cnc b/b yoke in some form. I'm pretty sure my year 2000 t-bird and my ddg shooter don't have cnc yokes of any form. Obviously they are not great trials frames, but i accepted the challenge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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