JJ Leigh Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 just wondering what's the best way to learn them? i ride an inspired so i dunno if its any easier or harder? and i really wanna learn hooks! just genuine help and advice would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Get a pallet and have it at a slope against a wall and gradually make it more vertical as you progress. Considering I've never master them without a pallet, that's all I'm going to say 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Prepare to be at it for ages. Hooks on decent sized vertical walls are haaard. But alos, go as fast as you can, on an inspired it may be easier to bunnyhop into it rather than pedal into it which will allow more speed. Keep your weight over the front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 You won't be learning anything new for at least two moths pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsIsHard Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Might this thread get more replies in Trials Chat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 don't jump too high up the wall. I aim to have my front wheel just clearing the lip with all my weight forwards. If you bunnyhop it and do that, then your momentum will be upwards and forwards, if you land too far on the wall your momentum will start to come back down and it will be a lot harder. Also, try not to use your brakes if possible. Comp riders will have a different technique with a pedal stroke and brakes locked but if you're on an inspired the above way keeps better flow and speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeperson45 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Comp riders will have a different technique with a pedal stroke and brakes locked but if you're on an inspired the above way keeps better flow and speed. Now you've mentioned that, could you (or whoever) explain that? Is that when they're able to go straight to rear? Does the rear wheel get the traction from the vertical edge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 thanks everyone ill take it on board! so basically hook straight onto the wall then instantly transfer the power into an "up and forward" motion? think i understand it You won't be learning anything new for at least two moths pal not bothered haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I'd say from memory (not done a pedal type hook for about 5 years now) that the backwheel isn't doing much in the way of grip, it's more hitting the wall and kinda rebounding off it while you quickly use the the flex from the forks with the front brake locked to generate a more upwards momentum ()as well as your body moving up) while you pivot on the front wheel and then swap to rear. I'm hopeless at explaining but hopefully that makes a bit of sense 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I'd say from memory (not done a pedal type hook for about 5 years now) that the backwheel isn't doing much in the way of grip, it's more hitting the wall and kinda rebounding off it while you quickly use the the flex from the forks with the front brake locked to generate a more upwards momentum ()as well as your body moving up) while you pivot on the front wheel and then swap to rear. I'm hopeless at explaining but hopefully that makes a bit of sense makes perfect sense to me, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I'd still recommend bunnyhopping into a hook if youre riding street, it just looks way better and you can do them brakeless and into a manual if it goes really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 ok thanks, i find bunny hops easier so i'd probably practice it that way anyway. thanks for the help everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 this is an example of trying to get your weight as far forward as possible, because I did that, the second part of the hook was no effort. Thats the mindset needed for hooks.....you really need to commit! 57 seconds: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Ali that up to front at 2:12 was something else! Props for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 yeah think im understanding it Ali cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 this is an example of trying to get your weight as far forward as possible, because I did that, the second part of the hook was no effort. Thats the mindset needed for hooks.....you really need to commit! 57 seconds: I proper miss seeing footage of you riding like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Anscombe Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 I proper miss seeing footage of you riding like that 2nd - I used to love ali c videos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I look back at my riding in that and I cringe mostly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillermo Marin Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Also, try not to use your brakes if possible. Flipp also learned to hook without brakes, so this have to be a good tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted October 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) I'll be doing hooks on this thing... one last question that might not matter... obviously because its a "smaller" inspired even though i suit it perfectly, (compared to a fourplay or arcade) would that make it any easier or harder? other than that i think ive got the idea of it now. thanks again everyone for the help, means a lot! Edited October 22, 2014 by JJ Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dk2 Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 i always try to imange im rolling my shoulder over the handle bars, to keep momentum...but dont pull the rear brake as this kills the move...Front brake is comci/comsa for my part, not sure whats proper(both seems to work...) good luck...keep us updated on progres. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 will do, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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