Le @ Tnn Engineering

TNN LGM's

I'm thrilled you love your pads. I regards to the play between the pads and slave cylinder it's a magura thing. They don't machine there slave cylinders how they come out when they are cast is the finished product as far as pad fit goes. Now the echo slaves are very different I'm not 100% sure if they are forged or cast but personally I don't think it makes much difference. Due to there design they are super strong and machined to tight tolerances which equals a pad fit made in heaven. Only drama is the diameter of the cylinder clamping area is smaller than on the magura cylinders. So they can slip in the brake clamps plus some of them leak on the seal and the fittings. I think the fittings are more prone to leaking due the fact the alum is harder and the fittings have a tougher time sealing. This can be easily fixed but using a copper or alum sealing washer between the fitting and cylinder. Or you can go the new sl brakes I think echo have fixed the leak issues now.

We've tested the Rockman blues against the Belaey's head to head in all conditions. The Rockmans have nothing on the Belaey's especially in locking power and wet weather.

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unless your a serious weight weenie go a conti RK or DK these things grip to everything and almost never pinch flat.

"Pirate themed pick up line" Arrr I must be hunting treasure cos it's your chest I'm digging!

Wow what a read. So here is may two cents on LGM vs Kenny Belaey pads. LGM pads Works best with a quality rim (rims that hold harsh grinds longer) ground as rough as possible (move grinder quickly whilst grinding) and a booster. This is a mega slow wearing compound so it does take upwards of 2 rides to bed in. LGM have a truely on/off feel with next to no modulation at all when run on a rough grind. Works well in wet and muddy conditions losing 30% locking power but still has more than enough power to continue riding. 9/10 for noise. Kenny Belaey pads. Not so grind dependent will work on any grind including worn grinds. Bedding in time is almost instant as long as pads are set up square. The Kenny pads are a more controlled pad delivering modulation and power in a sooth manner. Works well in the wet and muddy conditions also losing 30% of locking power but still more than enough power to continue riding. Noise is 5/10 with a fresh grind but can be almost silence on a worn grind. On a side note KB are pretty awesome with vee's. Sorry to say no they won't fit. But LGM compound is available for the 1st generation Vee pad. My review ‘I have been testing the pads extensively the past couple of months, in all kind of circumstances, but after riding several national and international contests I am now convinced about this pad more than any pad ever could convince me. Most pads are too rude or too soft but this one is both at the same time... It’s just perfect’ Kenny Belaey

Kenny Belaey pads now in store. Developed for Kenny to suit the best competition rider in the world. Control and power in all conditions. ‘I have been testing the pads extensively the past couple of months, in all kind of circumstances, but after riding several national and international contests I am now convinced about this pad more than any pad ever could convince me. Most pads are too rude or too soft but this one is both at the same time... It’s just perfect’ Kenny Belaey

Ross Your riding has come a long way since your first videos 18 months ago I'm thinking the high BB frame is helping too. A vee brake on the front I do like that. I'm currently running a vee on the rear and it's the best brake I've ever ran. If your keen I'll send you out some prototype adapters for testing when there ready.

It probably is the right size. There aren't too many o-ring around that size. Le.

Go with Maguras they are more reliable.

bunch of muckers.

Your like a fine wine you get better with age. Drop to skinny was as good as your shorts!!!! I'm thinking once your on your new high BB frame you'll be even better.

brakeless = hard I like how the video shows this. Top job.

Brakeless is hard work. Top video!!!

12.5 grade high tensile steel. Travis The chamfers on the pads help to stop uneven wear plus give a little extra power. (more pressure per area) Some will disagree.

OH Yeah! welcome back and welcome to the TNN team Love the big drop gap at the end. I recon you'd be good for another .5m bigger. Brake sounds awesome! Keep the videos coming.

Great photos especially for night shots. Big moves too!! I like it.

Great photos! Those areas look excellent for another video.

Fit a booster that'll help stop the frame bowing and increase braking power. As for the slave cylinders been all the way out that's not a problem. As the pads wear everything will sort itself out.

Photos please. I originally mounted this on a rockman Kortz without dramas. Please not that because the clamps mount directly onto the slave cylinder. You do not need to tighten the bolts as tight as you usually would with standard clamps that use the plastic washers. 25mm bolts also don't fit all frames.

Ross I see your gapping technique has improved. I must say I enjoyed your last video more.

Agreed. The cranks are no where near the slave cylinders. 118mm BB here i come.

I'm the third person I know who's got one. The other boys just ran a monty BB,monty cranks and freewheel with a TT Ti bashring,TT cog,8 speed MTB chain. problem solved. But I would like to keep my 128mm Resest BB so I'm trying same as above but with echo TR cog (sprocket is centered on cog) and a 2.5mm spacer on a tryall 'H' rear hub. and the chain still rubs by approx .5mm to 1mm. Only just assembled the bike today. So next step is to try to run a thicker spacer between the hub and frame. If that doesn't work some careful frame mods with the hydraulic press. Proper chain alignment is IMO very important.