Kevinfor Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Hello everyone! I'm sorry if this has been asked before! So I still havent decided what kind of brake i should get.. I curently have the Echo TR disc with a 180 Echo rotor and it's just not strong enough for my liking! So what would you do, get a new set of brake pads and see if they help (if anybody has tried this please let me know how it worked, I dont want to wait a week for the pads and then find out they didnt do the trick and have to place another order..) Or should Iget a better disc brake (I'm thinking saints or hopes) but if you know of anything better please say so! Money is not really a problem.. Or should I just get a front rim brake, I have an Echo TR rim brake on the rear and I like it a lot, but once again if you know of anything better please let me know! Oh and I prefer to ride TGS. Also if possible, i would really prefer stuff that Tartybikes have in stock, cause I like their service and it's faster to order stuff from tarty than to order them from mainland sweden! Thanks for reading! Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypermobilty Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Ive only heard good things about saints So if you can afford them go for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinfor Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Thanks for your reply, hypermobilty! Anybody else have an oppinion? Maybe somebody went from disc to rim brake and could share what that was like? I'm not blessed with having other people riding trials anywhere near so i cant really try different set ups. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 if moneys no problem go for saints, everyone seems to be raving about them, then donate the tr caliper to me .......or go for a maggie/tr rim setup if you want 'more' bite. that said i've read a few people say that the tr rotor is wank, i'd start there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkuskaUK Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Shimano do NOT supply spare parts, where as Hope and Avid do. That means if you split a piston seal, you need to buy a brand new brake This information is from my own personal experience when ringing up Shimano myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIAL-bike-MATT Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 The echo tr wont get any better in my opinion, i swaped mine for a hope trial zone, a huge improvement. So if you can aford it, you may aswell upgrade it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarkeHutchison Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Get an 05 hs33 or a front vee brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeroyHUK Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 hope tech or trial zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKidney Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Tech, Mono, or Zone. Hope's have always been good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack1987 Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've heard some good things about magura mt2 if you can't stretch to a hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'd get a hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinfor Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Thanks for the replys, everybody. So after talking to my local place I was told their supplier wouldnt get any more saints untill mid February 2013.... That means it is now down to Hope or rim brakes, and it looks like you all prefer Hopes but just to clarify you should know I have a stock and I read rim brakes are more suited for a stock. If I do go for the Hopes, which one should i get? Whats the difference? Thanks a lot. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials hoe Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 never got a disc setup to work on my stock, avid code was ok but maggies and a grind for the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake. Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 Thanks for the replys, everybody. So after talking to my local place I was told their supplier wouldnt get any more saints untill mid February 2013.... That means it is now down to Hope or rim brakes, and it looks like you all prefer Hopes but just to clarify you should know I have a stock and I read rim brakes are more suited for a stock. If I do go for the Hopes, which one should i get? Whats the difference? Thanks a lot. Kevin Get a pair of 2011 maguras if you can, everyone says they're bad but they really aren't. Or be a sheep and get 05 maguras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 or go old school and get some 04`s or earlier, i run old school racelines in yellow, retro coolness. still work perfectly, get some decent pads and you are on a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Since I've ridden rim brakes and disc brakes and have tried many setups I would deffo say: Go for the saints! I have it and it's blody awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAMPIRE V12 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 i run the echo tr discs on my onza zoot street trials bike, i had the problem of the brake not sticking i tried everything coke, cleaning you name it. In the end i roughed up the pads with some emory tape and roughed the disc up and just ridden it yes it was horrible but after a long time of hard braking in the wet and mud the brakes started to respond quite well and now are quite a good brake. I run a HS33 maggie and i would say when the discs bite they have about the same stopping power if not more and i'm able to flow my power alot more with the TR's. I've heard that the echo TR discs take a long time to bed in a lot longer than most discs. Here is a bit from the tartys website actually talking about a situation close to yours............. Reply from TartyBikes on 10/09/2012 Hi Gavin - Sorry to hear you weren't happy with your Echo brakes. They do tend to take longer to bed in than most other brakes as their rotors are made from a harder material which may explain why they didn't perform at their best. Normal riding seems to not really bed them in particularly well, so we usually recommend pouring a little water over the pads/rotor and pulsing the brake on/off repeatedly. If you repeat this process you'll feel the brake's bite improving, and with it the hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 i run the echo tr discs on my onza zoot street trials bike, i had the problem of the brake not sticking i tried everything Echo brakes suck. They leak and have are generally bad. Shimano brakes for the win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 If your're after power and performance and would like to stick with a disk brake, I haven't tried any disk brake that matches an avid bb7 with avid sd7 or ultimate lever, linear slick cable and 203 rotor. Alternatively you could try a front vee or magura depending on what mounts you have on your forks. My front brake set up is shimano acera vee, avid sd7 lever, odyssey linear slic cable and coust pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAMPIRE V12 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Echo brakes suck. They leak and have are generally bad. Shimano brakes for the win! Haha never had the problem with them leaking yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Haha never had the problem with them leaking yet "Yet"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bing Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Echo brakes suck. They leak and have are generally bad. Shimano brakes for the win! no they don't, you just gotta bed em in right or they don't bite. mine has massive bite and hold, and it doesn't leak. don't know why people keep slating them, it's like owt else, you don't maintain it it'll turn to shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAMPIRE V12 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 no they don't, you just gotta bed em in right or they don't bite. mine has massive bite and hold, and it doesn't leak. don't know why people keep slating them, it's like owt else, you don't maintain it it'll turn to shit. Yeah man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezmtber Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 best hope setup is a trialzone on no9 caliper/ postmount. you will need to order a brakr mount too it will cost you and extra £13 trust me its worth it for the adjustment you get. because if you rotor rubs the disc it will push the pistons back slightly and effect the feel of the brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 no they don't, you just gotta bed em in right or they don't bite. mine has massive bite and hold, and it doesn't leak. don't know why people keep slating them, it's like owt else, you don't maintain it it'll turn to shit. The power from them when bedded in is decent, I've ridden one. The problem is that the quality sucks, almost everyone leak after like a couple of months that's why everyone is "slating" them. They do seem to work better while they're wet though.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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