They are heavy frames, I weighed mine at 2.4kg I think, but that's only half a kilo heavy than most frames, if that. Basically, ignore this guy, you could get it under 9.5kg pretty easily I think if you wanted. EDIT: 11.8kg? LOL! Mine was 11.5kg, with T-Pro forks, (still have them, weighed them yesterday, 1.4kg), T-Pro wheels, T-Pro bar and stem, Muscleman cranks etc. Basically, try and imagine a heavier spec. Exactly, you can't.