Matt Staples Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 wooo. Finally...she lives ! After 7 weeks in my wet garage, I was finally able to ride yesterday (technically 2 days ago :D ) thanks to the awesome guys at Tartybikes. I rode in Worthing with the locals, along with mister Chai, Simon the Frenchman and his BT buddy Ben. I’ve decided to write a short review for the frame, fork and Onza parts. but as it was only my first real ride on it, I’ll write a full, in depth review in a month or so. Frame - KOT MS2 £TBA The frame is the lightest stock I've owned to date. At 1800g (around 3.9lbs) the flick-ability of the bike is made very obvious. The reaction of the bike to each tiny adjustment is hugely increased , thus adding to the feeling of control over the bike. The wheelbase (1099mm officially) measures at 1105mm on mine, which believe it or not, is perfect for me. This is only made possible by the 383mm chainstays and the + 30mm BB height, making the bike feel more like a 1060 than a 1100+ monster. As far as reliability goes, I can only comment on the down tube strength. I put a few nice scratches on the downtube during the ride, but scratches is all. I came down hard on it a few times, with nothing much to show for it. The biggest advantage I noticed over previous frames, apart from the wheelbase was the BB rise. Having your pedals up that extra 20mm or so makes a world of difference for cleaner (more uci orientated) riding. Also mentally, your riding position being higher, although less exaggerated than a Vinco / Onza -Tartybikes prototype, gives you greater confidence went attempting larger objects. http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....cmd=si&img=6741 Fork - KOT £TBA At first I was very sceptical about using a 415mm fork. I figured all it could do is make wheel swapping moves more awkward. How wrong I was. It’s only when you actually try the Kot fork you realise the frame was designed specifically for use with this particular fork. The fork is full aluminium, meaning it has an aluminium steerer, proven stronger, because there is no weak joint between alu and steel. Although very light, I’m not sure on the exact weight of the fork, though I will enquire. Despite the lightweight however , the fork remains reassuringly stiff, which can make all the difference when going for big gaps to front. With regards to taps/bumps/slaps/touches etc…The longer fork comes into its own. As I previously found with the BT F4 fork (420mm) Taps are made infinitely easier. Something to do with the positioning of the front wheel, in correlation to the bars, gives a far smoother tapping motion especially at high speeds. I often found when bumping with koxx (400mm) forks that the bike would just slam into a wall unless I put in total commitment and aimed low. The forks are available in both disc and V-brake mounts. http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....cmd=si&img=6743 Wheels - ONZA Hog rear £34 (747g ,47mm, drilled) and Hog front £33 (39mm, stamped out hedgehog and drilled sidewalls) ONZA front disc hub £37 (217g) I’m genuinely shocked. I picked up the my new front wheel on Saturday night and cringed. It was stupidly light. And having ridden with a rear rim on the front previously I was dubious as to how long it would last. However…Its amazing the difference a professional wheel build can make, I had no problems with the front wheel the whole day. I thought to myself, if this rim is going to die, then I’ll try to make it sooner than later, to avoid folding it in France. So I really pushed it, and hit some pretty harsh taps and gaps to the front. All with no visible effect. The front hub is the same as the try-all one I believe. Does its job well, keeps weight relatively low, and is very smooth. Not much more I can say really. The rear rim is the same a Try-all or Viz, Which I’ve been using for a while now. As with the front Hog, I can’t fault it when built properly and run at decent pressures. However the Viz rim I had before died a h/core dead due to me (at the time) being Mr 15psi. I now run between 20-25psi , and I can’t see me ever having a problem with it, unless I decide to drop my tyre pressures again. In which case, I may start running a Ronnie, to avoid dents. Although I may miss the crazy amount of grip you get from a 47mm wide rim with a 2.5 Maxxis Minion, wooo. :D http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....cmd=si&img=6742 Pedals - ONZA Hognesium £43 (374g , Magnesium) Woah ! By far the pimpest pedals I’ve owned to date. First things first… The weight ! At 374g they are incredible. They also offer an amazing about of grip, the replaceable pins stick to your shoes, and your shins like nothing I’ve ridden with before. Be warned however, these in my personal opinion are strictly UCI pedals. Still an amazing way to shed some weight and keep awesome performing pedals. Bars - ONZA Carbon fibre riser £53 (263g , 710mm (28‘’) wide) Ah…I’m hooked. I seriously don’t think I could go back to another bar. The feeling of control is so unique to anything else I’ve used. I was really looking forward to trying a riser bar, as the recent boom in their use has made me consider the possibilities for sidehops in particular, and also seeing the amazing control that both Ben Slinger and Danny Butler have over their bikes, all leads to one answer…riser bars must be the way forward, and I think that may be true. At a crazy low weight, its shocking that these bars could be so stiff and beefy, so despite the carbon fibre, you find an overwhelming confidence in them. The angle at which you have the bars is very important to the feel you get from them. I have set up mine tilted quite far back as this makes it easier for a small rider, such as myself to pull the front wheel up. I would recommend however that people play around with the angles they have them, as the slightest adjustment can make a huge difference. http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....cmd=si&img=6744 Stem - ONZA PZ31 £27 (197g -70mm, 210g -100mm) I’m currently running the 100mm, 12 degree rise stem. I find the length perfect for use with the carbon bars. At a reasonably low weight and very low price, I can’t find anything to fault this stem on. Cranks - Tensile ISIS £114 (468g 170mm bare cranks, bash guards 33g-16T, 50g-18T, 67g -20T) I’ve wanted these cranks for a while now, pretty much since I saw the Coustellier / Onza team guys started using them (yes I’m sad.) The first thing I noticed was the incredible stiffness you get from them, it really gives you a sense of ‘nothing is happening to these cranks’. This is also enforced with the replaceable pedal threads. I’ve never been so terrified to scratch something in my life, the mirror effect you get from the polished arms makes them look great. I’m using the UCI versions which come with 3 types of bashrings for covering 16, 18 and 20 tooth rings. EDIT: Holy shit ! Its 4:56 ! I hope some of you can be bothered to read this (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Long post.. Nice bike (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I really like that bike, looks like your happy with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Tapping easier? You tapped the 47" of splash first go (N) Then went on to sidehop it to two wheels :D Meh, the bike looked lushed, and that review was very nice. After see'ing you ride it, im tempted to maybe get it as my next bike, as it really did look easy to ride. Nice to see its working for you :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Aw c'mon, we need a price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechink Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 nice post matt. oh my god im now french. hahahaha i must say i rode this bike and its lush. i want one over my xtp. (pats on back) thechink aka the FrenChMAn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-king Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 lookin very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy P Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 A very nice bike indeed (if you're in to looooong bikes) Just a shame it had something wrong with it every 5 mins (N) . Andy P Oh, come ride Worthing again soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeee Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Did anything get a bad review? (N) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Nope :D there u go, saved u reading it luke :D" :D hehe, loooking nice matt, whens the video coming out :P :"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishwog Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 If the bars are the same as Pazzaz bars, which I'm sure they are, then yes these bars are the absolute don, and very much the way forward :D (I went from echo bars, due to discomfort in my wrist :P ) Good review, everything looks really nice... *cough* video *cough* :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dave Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 YAY your bikes working :P whats andy p talkin about :P its all new? unless due to your ginger nature you've put everything on the wrong way round :D" still looks sweet :D nicer than with the ginger rims defo :P so when will you be tapping southbank? arange a time so i can bring my camara :D come bas :D Dave :P p.s. you most proberly could have saved your self alot of time there, and just wrote, this bikes awsome! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Staples Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 In response to Andy P's post... :D http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....cmd=si&img=6759 http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....cmd=si&img=6760 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Is that a '05 Magura lever? Shitluck! Thanks for the reviews though; and yes, those Pazzaz/Onza CF bars dominate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Staples Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Is that a '05 Magura lever? Shitluck! Thanks for the reviews though; and yes, those Pazzaz/Onza CF bars dominate. ← Yep. No one believes me that I didn't hit it on anything. I simply pulled it in half. meh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetrials Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Was the clamp bolt falling out? Thats wht happends to normal maggies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Not the first time youve ripped a maggie apart, cant remeber where you did it but haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-A Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 (edited) Not the first time youve ripped a maggie apart, cant remeber where you did it but haha. ← Bristol at the loading bays doing massive massive pedal gaps with Chai. I remember because it was when Tim Stedman got his car impounded :P :D" and we had to catch the train home :D :D Btw Bike sounds lush :D Edited March 8, 2005 by Steve-A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingonthrone Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 it did look like a right beast on the worthing ride last sunday... i cant quite beleive you were riding it that well for someone that has only just got the bike that day. coming to worthing again soon?! Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Thats a well nice rear (front) magura lever you have on your bike Matt :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 looks the shiz from what i saw i weighed nothing , looks nice for a uci type bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Harding Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 looks horrible. the thing is matt, you change bikes like you do under wear, i can garrentiue the nnest time we go ride on a cold wionter night, you will moan about how now you wanna street bike or a bmx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant_ride Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 you will moan about how now you wanna street bike or a bmx remind you of anyone nick ?? ho ho ho .... matt are u comin to olis secret night ride of doom? I aint ridden with you since you had my koxx. oli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 ...you change bikes like you do under wear, ← Not very often then :blink: There's something about that frame that really appeals to me, 'tis lush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 damn mech hangars....where do you find new ones for such an exclusive frame! adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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