weebryan Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Is there any long lever blade for the new hs33 i know you can get ones for the old style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 There's also the RB ones, but they leak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipus Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 woooo, nice looking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alun Goch Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 DIY!Alun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 that fresh procuct lever looks pimp, looks good from an ergonomic and aesthetic point of view,nice to see its been made and designed to fit around the more popular 04 lever bodyi think deng should have done this with the levers he has just designedash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squince Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 These and the echo, and gu brake levers are available at tartybikes mid june Im not really sure about length and that.cheers andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Elding Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 (edited) PicsThese and the echo, and gu brake levers are available at tartybikes mid june Im not really sure about length and that.cheers andyHow are you meant to get the tpa in and out of those?Edit: Pictures!!! Edited May 21, 2006 by Joe_Elding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Same way you do it on a normal '05 lever, undo it all the way, pull the pin out and it'll fall to pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhups Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 i know but is there any way of un-jamming on 05 tpa?Bhups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Get it out (pliers or whatever) then turn it round, or preferably run an M6 tap through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhups Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 (edited) thanks um......whats a m6 tap and where can i get it lol?Bhups. Edited May 21, 2006 by bhups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 A tap is a device for cutting threads, an M6 tap is a standard 6 mm tap, try your LBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 Will the new fresh products levers be all spongey like the rb one was when you fitted it into a standard magura body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Will the new fresh products levers be all spongey like the rb one was when you fitted it into a standard magura body?no... i got sent one of the very first levers wayyyyy back to test... and it isnt spongy like the rb at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 iv been doin some playing, hoping to start making someobviosly this is a geometry experiment, rather than a construction one. lolit work VERY well. i love it.it looks ermm interesting[attachmentid=4758]iolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 www.shadylever.com Gonna have to start carrying spoke keys on rides if it gets much longer though, 'cos the pads are gonna have to be pretty close to the rim if you have a nice bite point on the lever 'cos it's longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Cant wait for mid june Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 www.shadylever.com Gonna have to start carrying spoke keys on rides if it gets much longer though, 'cos the pads are gonna have to be pretty close to the rim if you have a nice bite point on the lever 'cos it's longer?the link doesn't work for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 (edited) the link doesn't work for me Was that a joke? Check the link name again..... Edited May 22, 2006 by Swize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 hee hee hee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 www.shadylever.com Gonna have to start carrying spoke keys on rides if it gets much longer though, 'cos the pads are gonna have to be pretty close to the rim if you have a nice bite point on the lever 'cos it's longer? the link doesn't work for me Try it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 link works dandy now i clicked it and got pissed off cos nothing came up then read the web addressthat fresh lever looks well impressiveare there any aftermarker lever blades for cable levers? be good for all the people out there running vs/bb7s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 link works dandy now i clicked it and got pissed off cos nothing came up then read the web addressthat fresh lever looks well impressiveare there any aftermarker lever blades for cable levers? be good for all the people out there running vs/bb7s xt levers are great, but i wish they had the flat back like avid sd7s and the speed dial would be nice and i wish avif didn't go so bloody wobbly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Just wanted to say that I'm really pleased that the Fresh Levers have finally been released! I know myself how much time these things can take, and how sure you have to be that the design is 100% before cracking ahead. The financial commitment can be daunting if you making your first steps into getting components made. It's certainly a world away from the position the large trials firms are in.The final Fresh lever looks excellent I can't see anything that I would suggest doing differently! On the subject of crazy longer levers, you can't just go longer and longer with proportional benefits.From memory the relative leverage ratio of a normal magura lever blade in a HS33 system all the way to the pads is 5:1. So there's 5x the movement at the lever compared to the amount each brake pad moves. I haven't looked at my calculations for a while, so the figure may not be 100% correct but it's a useful figure for this discussion.5x the lever movement compared to each pad means 5x the force at each pad. This trade of movement for a magnification of braking force at the rim can't be increased forever though, because there's only so far that it's comfortable to reach your finger out from the bars (start position) and so far you can pull it in (end position) before it hits your hand. Aside from the ergonomics, there's the fact that any compression in the system (the pads and backing being the dominant item) will be magnified by the lever ratio. So with the standard system and blade, 1mm in compression each side will appear as 5mm of squish at the lever.I'm very tempted to buy one of those Fresh levers but I've only just sorted out trying an RB blade mounted in a HS33 body (a few years late with this trend!)Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 xt levers are great, but i wish they had the flat back like avid sd7s and the speed dial would be nice and i wish avif didn't go so bloody wobbly...i use xtr and ultimate levers, and think they both rock just be nice to see some cheaper competition, seeing as they arent all that cheap i may give it a try i never found the speed dial that useful really, i always keep mine on the highest setting cos it feels the best, although i did enjoy the extra 'give' that you get when you allow some modulation, its just a bit more comfy on your fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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