mods Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 (edited) A friend of mine is after a trials bike to start on, he brought to my attention the 24/7 holroyo. i want to know what it's like it seems reasonable enough, or would he be better with a t - rex or similar. any info would be appreciated, and soz if there has been discussion about this already. http://www.24sevenbikes.com/BIKESMAIN.htmlthx shay. Edited June 13, 2006 by mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexymike Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 loads of factors changed loads of things like ;how tall is he/shehow much money do they want to spendhave they tried different bikes, if so, which did they prefer?the best thing to do is have a go on a few at a ride then watch the 2nd hand market, u can pick up a blinding bike 2nd hand and u will usually get good value for money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nafan Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 That's cheap as chips Good choice but better be careful with the stem, bars etc...I'd buy it Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Good choice but better be careful with the stem, bars etc...Why?24/7 bars n stuff are really strong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCottTrials Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Is there a reason you keep calling it a holroyo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Can somebody please post pictures of the real bike not just a cartoon drawing? thankszoo baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mods Posted June 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 (edited) well, he was into dirt jumping, but wants to move towards trials, i, think i'll advise him to go down the second route, like u said can get a nice bike second hand. The 24/7 does look gd though imo. It's danny holroyd's signature bike...shayjust realsied it's ' holroyd' not holroyo... :$ Edited June 13, 2006 by mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Fried Rice Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 Is there a reason you keep calling it a holroyo?maybe because its the name of the bikeJohn K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 in all fairness holroyd in the writing on the site does look like holroyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEavoLa Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 maybe because its the name of the bikeJohn KWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRONGGGGGGG!the font on the bike/website may look like "holroyo" *snigger* but if you took the time to read the text - or knew the rider who inspired* it - then you'd see it was Holroyd.* - i say "inspired" with tongue in cheek - it's such a Zoo Pitbull rip-off it's rediculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benno Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Really? Check the geometry out... a Pitbull this is not, even if it's built from some of the same catalogue parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEavoLa Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Really? Check the geometry out... a Pitbull this is not, even if it's built from some of the same catalogue parts.not "the same" but a distinct rip off of the ideasee:dual headtube gussets? checkpierced 'wing-shaped' seattube gusset? checki mean - sure, the Holroyd is even lower and the drop outs are a different design, but it hardly took weeks of labour to come up with the Holroyd. Danny probably walked in to Fraser at 24Seven, sat down and said:"y'know - i like the Zoo Pitbull, but it needs to be lower and the dropouts are naff, and i like dark grey with a longer headtube - what can you do?"and that was it! the legions on "long, low and silver" bikes are all looking too similar now, but then i guess that's because there's not much more to change on the basic 'currently fashionable' design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 "y'know - i like the Zoo Pitbull, but it needs to be lower and the dropouts are naff, and i like dark grey with a longer headtube - what can you do?"Yeah, that's right. That's why it has exactly the same geometry, and rides exactly the same (Even though no one on here has ridden one). The only thing it has in common with the Pitbull is that big gusset. Aside from that, it's one of the most innovative stock frames I've seen for a while (horizontal drops, BMX spacing, different geo etc). Not saying these things are good - I'm definitely not convinced by BMX spacing - but to say it's the same as a Pitbull is just dumb. Just dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the judge Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I don't really think it's fair to say it's just a copy until somebody has ridden one e.g. t-rex and zoot look similar but ride completely differently.I think it looks quite good and with a decent price tag I think they'll be onto a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEavoLa Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 ...it's one of the most innovative stock frames I've seen for a while (horizontal drops, BMX spacing, different geo etc). Not saying these things are good - I'm definitely not convinced by BMX spacing - but to say it's the same as a Pitbull is just dumb. Just dumb.guys - i don't wanna get into a war here, but my point was that the 24Seven Holroyd is hardly the most innovative looking bike out there.horizontal drop-outs were used on the DiamondBack T-1/T-10 a while ago, and i don't see any great advantage to having BMX spacing either but it's "the look"..."the design" of the 24Seven that didn't really depart from a bike like the Zoo Pitbull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Why?24/7 bars n stuff are really strong... Many sets of now 2-piece 24seven bars suggest otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Not saying these things are good - I'm definitely not convinced by BMX spacing - but to say it's the same as a Pitbull is just dumb. Just dumb.BMX spacing official sucks balls. The 24 7 looks alright, its nothing new and revolutionary which would be amazing if it was. Danny seems to be coping well with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Depends what hub you're going to use I guess. For stock, I think I'd rather have a wider hub just to get more stability for the comedy over-sized rims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Vertical drop outs are so much easier, less maintainence. Setting brakes up becomes a whole lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Depends what hub you're going to use I guess. For stock, I think I'd rather have a wider hub just to get more stability for the comedy over-sized rims? Ey!, less of that round here thankyou. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Looks like a big Zona Zip to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mods Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 thanks for reply's guys, in my opinion i think he shoud get something secondhand, cus we all know how much we mashed our first bikes.. i told him this and he took my point so i think he sway more toward the secondhand route as well.imo 24/7 seem to have made a gd effort with that bike, but will prob get slated as do a lot of new things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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