RobinJI Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 My local small bike shop is interested in getting in deng stuff as the number of local trials riders seems to be going up alot.Anyone know the numbers and things he's gunna need to set up an account with the suppliers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 My Lbs gets there stuff threw tarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun H Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Select Bikes (selectbikes.com) are the official UK importer for all stuff in the UK. They need to get in contact with Phil Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johneh Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 what is deng? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlynnP Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Deng is the owner of Echo/Zoo/Gu and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johneh Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 ahh ok, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt! Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 what is deng? roflmao, everyone knows deng! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 I have a feeling that Tarty actually get Deng stuff in themselves now, instead of going through Phil, so Tarty would probably be a safer bet judging from people's experiences with Select & Tart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Select Bikes (selectbikes.com) are the official UK importer for all stuff in the UK. They need to get in contact with Phil Williams.There is no official importesrs for Deng stuff now, all the shops which deal in his stuff get it directly from him (as far as i am aware) So like Mark said tarty gets their stuff straight from him......Probs a good idea to get the lbs to ring Tartybikes and see what they say Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 I have a feeling that Tarty actually get Deng stuff in themselves now, instead of going through Phil, so Tarty would probably be a safer bet judging from people's experiences with Select & Tart?Yeh, that sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 But surely they'll have to put their prices higher than Tarty's to cover the cost and make a profit. But most trials riders know about Tarty and would surely just buy straight from there.Just doesn't seem like a good business deal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 What do you think the chances are that they would buy things at retail price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 (edited) But surely they'll have to put their prices higher than Tarty's to cover the cost and make a profit. But most trials riders know about Tarty and would surely just buy straight from there. Just to give you an idea about the prices, ZHI ZM1's retail over here for under 150, and the guy selling them makes a decent profit. Most new Deng frames are cheaper than battered frames you can buy on this forum. Tarty isn't cheap, it's incredibly expensive, especially when it comes to all these coloured components like headsets, hubs, cnc brake mounts (ie. deng headsets are under 30 this end, brake clamps are about 13, Echo CNC/Adamant cranks are 75/95) . So to make some profit, an lbs wouldn't have to put the prices up any higher than Tartybikes, unless the taxes in the UK are very different to the ones we have here. I guess the prices at Tarty are so high because it's their only source of revenue. By selling trials components they have to earn a living and pay for running a shop. In the case of an lbs, these costs are already covered.edit: I still think that Tarty would win with any other shops in terms of customer service. Even if a certain "pink" shop in the UK would offer prices very much lower than TB, I'd still stick to Mr. Read and Cleaver. So it's not only the price of goods, it's the service you get during and after purchase which Tartybikes are simply best at. Edited November 12, 2006 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 The prices will be higher here, due to VAT, taxes to do with customs (Import tax?), transport costs may be different, and so on. The prices are pretty consistent throughout the UK, so it's obviously not just Tarty making the most out of a good situation for them? It's the same way that you can buy a new Echo Control for £60 or something around that area in China, but it's 4 times that amount here. Tax varies from country to country, so prices will fluctuate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Well, the frames are much less, what costs loads is transport. Then you get taxed for the value of the order inc. postage prices. Tax rates can't be that different in the UK, after all we're in the EU which should mean they're very similar. If they weren't, you'd just be importing gear to an EU country with the lowest tax and then sending it off to the UK. Forgot that the prices at TB include VAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 OK thanks, so I need to tell the LBS owner to contact tarty or select? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Well, why can't the LBS just order stuff from Deng? If they're going to stock a lot of gear then it's well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJI Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Nah, thing is its only a pretty small shop, so they wouldnt be able to stock alot of stuff, just if any of us need it he wants to be able to order it, and keep in stock the little things like boosters and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 phil at selectbikes sorts a lot of shops out how you need... does very good prices on it all aswell so best bet is give him a ring/email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br3n Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 he's paid to say that ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 what is deng? its like a cheap import dent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 he's paid to say that ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Deng's more like a drug which makes you see loads of colours around you and gradually takes over your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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