JohnyMilton Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 well in the past couple of days theres been topics about brakes and the main one i was taking part in was''maggies or disks on the front end?'' ,ok and ther guy who posted the topic convinsted me to try maggies on the front and i did try maggies and i liked it, so now i ride with them. now i have had to go back to vbrakes on the rear, due to the fact my maggie burst. and i have to ask why do people use maggies cause vbrakes are just as good and cheaper!!! this is a pointless topic!! lolJohny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 (edited) I think i've slowly come round to the fact that v's can be as good as maguras.I personaly have had no real bother with maguras, and lots of problems with v's, hence why i'm a maggie man.I don't think there's any need for this whole constant arguing though. What really anoys me is when someones asks "my maguras leaking, help" and someone comes in and says "get a v" or something to that effect. Fair enough joking about it every now and again, but some people do want to make sure everyone knows they like v's over maguras.I do get this feeling though that some people are riding v's and steel frames just to be 'old school and cool'. I'm sure that'll piss a few people off me saying that, but this threds gonna turn very ugly very quickly anyway so... If you know how to fix your magura properly it wont leak. I've had mine for lke 3 years now. Re-bled once becuase i wanted to try water, not a problem, if a hardcore v user out there has had the experience i've had with maguras, they'd be using maguras. It's mainly down to luck i think. Edited November 27, 2006 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnyMilton Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 well your talking the truth i have been a maggie man for a a few years but i do find vbrakes just as gd!! and im not trying to start an arugment i just like seen other peoples thought but u have a strong point on this!! lol Cheers!! johny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I was a maggie fan and the thought of running a vee was silly, but I tried Adam Reads rear vee on one of his bikes and I was blown away, it was the best brake I have ever felt!! I tried it on my bike last year, but it didnt work out (partly due to using an overwide rim for my frame/brake setup).for some reason I decided to try a vee again at the begining of summer, it was the best desicion I have made brake wise! I dont get arm pump and it allowed me to get better comp presults (3rd in the worlds and 3rd in uk), I doubt I would have done so well with a maggie.Maggies are all well and good though, theres no doubt they work, but a vee has lots more positives, more adjustable, easier to pull, more powerful (especially backwards!!), can get spairs just about anywhere and so on and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 areet! maggies much powerfuller and really good with a grind and if you have good pads!cheers max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 you lie! stop lieing you lier!! Why would you lie that that?maggies are good, but no matter that people say vees REALLY do kick ass at sheer holding power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 ....even on a mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 thats your task, try it on a mod and report back. I see no reason why a mod should be different though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 you lie! stop lieing you lier!! Why would you lie that that?maggies are good, but no matter that people say vees REALLY do kick ass at sheer holding power Depends what V it is though. Something like what you get on some Apollo is no comparison to a Magura.But a well set up, Avid Ultimate will probably piss all over a Magura...I say their about the same, with the right pads and setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 ....even on a mod?i had 1 on a mod....and well, it was rediculous, soooo much hold i dont think that ever slipped on me, or my 16 stone trials riding tubby friend, which is pretty good going i assure you everybody knows i think vs are better, and its obvious why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I have to say i have also been running a rear vee at the moment, and i have to say i have realy been blown away, it is such a good rear brake, it feels much better than my magura ever did, has as much power, if not more and like ali said, much easier to setup and adjust AdamPS: Joypads *** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 I have to say i have also been running a rear vee at the moment, and i have to say i have realy been blown away, it is such a good rear brake, it feels much better than my magura ever did, has as much power, if not more and like ali said, much easier to setup and adjust AdamPS: Joypads ***Yes,Adams brake is a bit of a beast.max... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Yes,Adams brake is a bit of a beast.max...AHA i know who you are know AdamPS: You are abit of a beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicman Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 When vee brakes are set up well they work very well especially when they are avid brakes, they're amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-t Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 AHA i know who you are know AdamPS: You are abit of a beast! thanks buddy, but it must be that extra 20mm i have on you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 It's clear why opinions are so polarised one way or the other. Some people loving Maggies and others loving Vees, but not many people liking both! It's got to be because it takes time to learn how to set up each system to get the best out of it for trials use. What parts work? How to set them up well? This experience is hard won and once we've got the set-up that it top notch, the thought of having to go through the learning curve again afresh, and having dodgy braking for a while is daunting not to say seemingly impossible!Definately both systems work great for trials with the set-up experience and decent parts. Here in the UK, Magura systems are quite plentiful on the 2nd hand market so equipping your bike with them for little money is easy. As a result the majority of use Maggies, which definately tick all the boxes in perception as a trials specific product. One thing I've realised is just how different other scenes are around the world where Maguras aren't available so cheaply. Vees are hugely popular in Japan, Australia and the US/Canada. My next bike is going to be set-up 100% Vee so I can perfect my set-up skills Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnyMilton Posted November 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 well you all have different opions and vbrakes do improve ur skills to higher level i have just order a whole new set of vbrakes for my zoot and i hope ot feels gd!!! but do i use a cable disc brake on the front?? thats other chioce i must make!!! lol Johny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Owen. Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 you lie! stop lieing you lier!! Why would you lie that that?maggies are good, but no matter that people say vees REALLY do kick ass at sheer holding poweri totally agree mate. i was going to upgrade to maggies until i got a decent set of pads on my vees!!! my vees are amazing and personally i think are better than maggies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterjamesbailey Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 a good set up vee can be as good as maggies, but maggies are less hassle and look so much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 a reason why alot more people use maggies is that theres is alot more after market pads to choose from, not nescessarily better than the few v-pads used for trials but you get a lot more of a range to choose from. imo both brake set ups are as good as each other when set up properly with a good set of pads and argueable a grind. also alot of bike companies but maggies on there bikes as a selling point over vee's and this makes alot of people think instantly that vee's arn't as good. just my thoughts cheers hudson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Owen. Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 a good set up vee can be as good as maggies, but maggies are less hassle and look so much better!what are you on about mate?? less hassle?? how u work that one out?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials wannabe Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 i absolutly hate vee brakes so id have to say maggies i feel there more comfortable and by all means they look way better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixmaker Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 good Vees with good lever - doesn't cheaper than magura.but as Felix Mucke said:"no oil - no problem"both brakes do its job when it adjusted right.vees - excelent working with lever like avid ultimate or xtr with good cable, with good pads, magura - excelent working with Royal Blood, grind, padsit's just your choise - magura or vee.Isn't it?correct me if wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickyw Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Hs33 on the rear,Vee at the front.The way i roll at the mo'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigman Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 good Vees with good lever - doesn't cheaper than magura.but as Felix Mucke said:"no oil - no problem"both brakes do its job when it adjusted right.vees - excelent working with lever like avid ultimate or xtr with good cable, with good pads, magura - excelent working with Royal Blood, grind, padsit's just your choise - magura or vee.Isn't it?correct me if wrong.Not neccisarily, i am currently running an SD7 lever, Dewhore arms (yes dewhore!), odyssey linear slick cable and ali c's joy pads, not an overly expensive setup and it is AWSOME, although once i get some money i will be getting some ultimate arms off a mate Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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