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    • Hi,   what is your experience with the DT 54t kit or the aliexpress 54t or 60t kit for DT Swiss hubs? I am building an old Giant STP as a kind of allrounder, like Jeff Lenosky did in the past. I have a wheel with a DT 240s hub and I would like you to share your experience with the different kits. I rode once with an aliexpress 54t kit and till now it did not slip, even during trial moves. But what about the reliability? Thanks for sharing your experience.  
    • Agree with you. To me, 72 POE is already good enough (I.e. I don't feel its a big drawback and I feel confident), even if I prefer even more engagement points. To fully benefit from the advantages of a higher POE, the chain tension shall be properly set and kept constant.  Also the feeling of the freewheel is important, some feel less stiff/reactive than other even if they engage earlier. For example, I read that the I9 design uses the axle deformation to ensure full contact of the pawls and prevent skipping. So it feels a little less stiff that one would expect from 690 POE - it feels still amazing though. To me the 135 POE front freewheels with industrial bearings feel better than the 120 POE, due to the stiffness difference.
    • Most HS33 alloy forks develop cracks around the welds. It is only a matter of time for a professional rider. The leverage applied by the fork legs is ridiculous and there is a quite rude stiffness transition close to the headset. So any additional edge in this area is a high stress riser. Afaik Crewkerz developed a carbon fork, cause they are less prone to fatigue failures.
    • True...I made a hole and routed internal. Might regret it, but looks clean... I usually put the brakes on bleed and leave then on forever. Last bike 6years no hassle... but thanks for inputs
    • Welding one on creates a stress point in the forks where they routinely fail when put under the extreme loads found in trials riding. Forks that have had them in the past would fail there like clockwork. Not putting one on presents no real issue for the user - if you're worried about the look of it then just use a loop of transparent sticky tape - and means that they've been made with longevity in mind. The warranty may only last six months, but they design the product to last as long as possible. (For the record - it's not just Inspired. Most trials brands have a very short warranty period, to the extent of a historic Koxx sister-brand called NoWar offering zero warranty right from the date of purchase. NoWar = No Warranty.)     Edit: The trouble with internal hose routing is that it's more of a faff to replace/exchange them. They used to come with the option to internally route, and maybe they still do - I don't know. But trials riders typically fiddle with brakes a lot, and if you have to disconnect them and rebleed them every time you want to take them off the bike... it's hassle. Especially true for the rear, as it has the added problem of hoses getting torn in crashes where the bars go spinning. Sure, you could fix that with what people now think is a revolutionary product in the BlockLock headsets that Monty did with their Stop Steering System getting on for 30 years ago, but that adds more weight, complexity, cost, and if using Acros as they all do, plastic compression rings which have absolutely no place in trials   Honestly, these are problems that mountain bike companies solved that just don't exist for trials usage. I question the need for them in MTB even, but they know people will buy it so why wouldn't they sell it in this broken, terrible world?
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