Where has he asked for Echo lites?
Why anyone would want to run anything other than a Z610 for a chain I'll never know.
"Red" try-all rims are junk because they are really pink and look cack. Try-all rims in pretty much any other colour are fine.
I was joking too by the way. Stop being such a gang of sensitive girls with sand in your vaginas.
Edit: Another thing Echo/Zoo bars are disgusting and shit. I don't know why people like them.