i left school and went to college doing a nvq in weld and fabrication as well as machining, then once that was finished phoned 1 local engineering company asking if they wanted an apprentice, they said they didn't really but to go in anyway, went in, had my interview, dressed smart, made chit chat with the interviewer phone call literally 2 hours after i left there, offering me a job. been there nearly 3 years, done my level 2 and 3 CITY AND GUILDS, now i am going in the army in REME as an armourer, i will go for evey avaliable course, from forklift, HGV, no matter what i will go for the course and they will pay for anything, it'll give me higher than an engineering degree asnf i will get to travel the world, have disipline etc and have a garanteed job with good pension, eveything paid for.. as well as having the best time of my life, making hundreds of new friends.. think about it