speaking to nick quite frequently about cars the lad does know his stuff, yes he does like to tell everyone how good his a3 is, but then it is for good reason. i dont know many people that have a car quite as nice or as quick as his at 19! and theres a very good reason for the vag rant, they do make a lot of other cars look well, poor. i do think its a little sad the way people take their opinions of cars too far. But also there are people who seem to think that if someone doesnt like the particular car they own or desire, and they present their negative opnion on it, the said owner/person who desires that car thinks its a personal attack on themselves i find this quite funny. i do think anyone who says a subaru impreza is a poor handling car is a little niave, but then its only an opinion. back to the damn topic, its damn impressive that something built by the irish 20 odd years ago, albeit not standard, can hit the 1/4 mile in 13 secs. i'd be happy with a 13 second car, unfortunately i think my golf would be closer to 20 seconds! craig