Trackstandtom Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Has anyone seen the video on YouTube of the guy who turns his stem wrong way to learn to manual? Just wondering how you learnt to manual? Would turning the stem the wrong way be an advantage as your weight would be further back and you could find it easyer to get on the back wheel. Or do you think keep it as it is and just keep at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikee Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I'm no manual expert, but I found that I improved my manuals most when I took off my back brake. So you have to rely on body movements to keep your balance rather then using the back brake to stop you going over the back. Manuals are quite a tricky one to nail though, so keep at it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Leigh Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) literally just takes practice, balance and control. once you have them, you'll only make them carry on for longer. i can do them forever i just dunno how to describe learning them try stay low with your butt close benind your rear hub/axle, that's how i do it and its where the balance point is pretty much, then just slowly lean forwards or backwards if you upset your balance point. if you try a manual normally, even if the front is tipping down loads, just keep leaning and pulling back, even if it the front doesn't come back up super quick, if you get it back up you know how to control them! its all about small, slow movements with your butt/knees whilst your in a manual. but i wouldn't bother moving your stem, kinda defeats the point of doing a proper manual... and looks weird! i reckon it'll be harder with the stem back too! hope that makes sense... i dunno how to describe it very well however, it makes perfect sense to me so if only i could show you face to face then you maybe, just maybe, might understand where im coming from haha but if you do already then keeeewwwwlllll Edited June 4, 2015 by JJ Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 1. lean back (not too much) 2. stay there 3. you've won! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Learning something the right way the first time is going to be a lot more beneficial to you than learning something the wrong way (turning your stem round) then having to re-learn it the right way afterwards. If you find you're just dropping the front wheel again as soon as you've lifted it up, keep your arms a little straighter and bend your legs a little more so that overall your body weight is lower and further back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsy Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I think I learnt them the same as I learn my wheelies on my way to school.. Falling off the back all the time (or grabbing the brake in the last moment) until you've got the balance point right, when try to keep it in balance with the brake and then finally stop touching the brake and balance it out with your butt and legs. You also learn safely bailing out of them like that I found by trying to teach my friends that fear keeps you from pulling on the bars too hard, but really there actually nothing that happens if you do so, providing you take your rear foot off the pedals first when jumping off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoze Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Try and get your arse on/ over the back wheel with your arms straight, you'll be alright. Practice, practice practice! And The Manual Dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Man manual dreams are the best. Getting locked in to the position and bending your knees are key 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebelistic Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 I've been struggling with manuals for some time. Sometimes they work sometimes not, very inconsistent. I think a mistake I make is to not pop up the front enough so it's then a struggle to hold it up. Then again I often lift too much and loop out. I find it helps if I sort of think about pushing with the feet while pulling with the arms to keep the front up. IDK, my balance isn't too bad but I've always struggled with manuals. I think loads of practice could be the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff costello Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) what's harder manuals with or without pedalling? i can't manual at all. so lately i've been doing this: i start out standing on the backwheel, then lower my ass and try to pedal a few meters. been trying for a few days now and i can manage about one full turn of the cranks now. dismal, i know. but the best i can do now. there's something visceral against leaning back on bikes in me. takes me forever to learn. Edited June 11, 2015 by jeff costello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psiron Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I bought a cheap bmx and took off the back brake, which worked well. I've just finished Ryan Leech's 30 day wheelie challenge and I can now do coaster wheelies one hand wheelies turns etc, best £20 I've ever spent on mountain bike skills. Anyway I've been wondering If it would be better to learn how to wheelie sitting on the saddle before learning how to manual?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Not if your aim is to learn to manual. There are no transferable skills between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_t Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Im trying to learn to manual too. I can do it a little bit on my mountain bike but not at all on the mod. I can't for the life of me lift the front wheel without a pedal. Does the technique change with the different geometrys? I know Flip does it all the time on his, or should i just accept that i'm never going to have his skills :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Im trying to learn to manual too. I can do it a little bit on my mountain bike but not at all on the mod. I can't for the life of me lift the front wheel without a pedal. Does the technique change with the different geometrys? I know Flip does it all the time on his, or should i just accept that i'm never going to have his skills :'( my front setup on my mod is the same as flipps,and I can manual forever. In fact, I learnt to manual on a trials bike, I wouldn't be able to transfer the skill over from say a mountain bike as manualling a mod is completely different. If you're learning, rock your weight forwards, (dip your knees) and pull back, arms straight, and try and get your arse nice and far back. Try and get it to flip over, "loop out" as its called so you have to bail/jump off. If you can get it so it loops out, you can get it to manual. It's just time and practice practice to find the point where it doesn't drop down and doesn't loop out, and keeping it there. Once you can hold it there for a few seconds, the rocking of the body starts to come fairly naturally. Front end goes too high, bend knees to bring weight forward. Too low- push with your legs/straighten them to bring it back. It's just practice until your body does it without thinking. Hope this helps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff costello Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 my front setup on my mod is the same as flipps, and what is that exactly? from the pics i'd guess that flipp runs a 180 stem with like 2cm of stacker. on my mod i have a 165 stem with the max. amount of stackers (appr. 4,5 cm). so it should be appr. the same height, little less length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbertlemon102 Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 and what is that exactly? from the pics i'd guess that flipp runs a 180 stem with like 2cm of stacker. on my mod i have a 165 stem with the max. amount of stackers (appr. 4,5 cm). so it should be appr. the same height, little less length. trial tech high rise, trial tech 150x30 stem with a few stackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlekarlypilkboid Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Manuals on trials bikes are tricky as. I used to bmx so learnt to brakeless manny. When I first went to pull up my trials bike it was crazy hard. Then after a little bit you get the hang of it. I found you have to pull up a lot harder and try not to use your back brake. Use your calfs to balence and last resort pull your arms up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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