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Have you considered getting it carbon wrapped? Just welding it will do very limited good... Destroys the heat-treatment and what not so it'll just crack again - probably very quickly as they're really light frames. I dunno how long it would actually last, but Kyle's been riding an Inpulse that cracked all the way through (completely separated) at a similar place that got welded and wrapped by Jaf, and it's still going with no new creaks or cracks 8/9 months later. Looks lovely. So much nicer than the Sky 3s! Is that a front mag rim, or one of those weird Echo ones?

Come on dude, I was clearly joking.

Seems to me that if Gilles ran a normal bar angle (like everyone else), he might've been better able to cope with the mud (like everyone else) The way he was talking about it I'd expected a swamp rather than a fairly muddy field. I understand the reasoning behind the objection, but fear it was a bit of an over-reaction. It was nice to see the mods get a bit more coverage than normal though. Able Abel!

When I was younger, my friends were all bigger and heavier than I. We used to ride normal crappy bikes around the village, and they all got loads of punctures. I felt super left out so started ramming in to curbs so I got some too. To look like I considered them an inconvenience like my friends seemed to, I had to buy better tubes and tyres to stop it, so I had to go from higher and higher/further and further away to keep getting them. Eventually I realized it was actually kinda fun without getting punctures, so started trying to do cooler stuff - punctures or no. Sorta evolved from there really.

Didn't realize you were Jake Deakin. I take back what I said.

Now'days, 10kg is just a little on the hefty side of normal for a stock. 10kg now is as 13kg was when I last rode with you

Mine too, in that case ghostrider - just in case it was a genuine misunderstanding, putting a " " or " " at the end of a sentence usually gives the impression of a joke or sarcasm to an English reader. Is it different in Slovakia? BB looks suuuuuuuper high Joe - how high is it? f**king love the stealth-with-silver-highlights look. Only thing that surpasses matte black is matte carbon weave! Haha.

Saying 100 grams makes absolutely no difference is pretty much the same as saying 10 trips to the gym makes absolutely no difference, and thus it's not worth doing - and I'm pretty sure you'll disagree with that. The difference is usually small (though I personally feel dropping 100 grams on a front tyre, or forks, or changing from a freehub to fixed and FFW ((though the latter is more to do with distribution, admittedly)) makes a very notable difference), but if you want to make improvements and you can afford it then it's definitely worth doing. Doing a poo makes very little difference as it's the weight of the bike that counts, not the rider/combined weight. The weight of the bike matters more since once you've jumped the height necessary you have to drag the damned thing up with you. A bigger difference would be made by wearing shorts instead of jeans - which is something I also personally feel makes a difference (but again, that could be more to do with range of movement than weight).

That was cool Personally, I would've liked a few TGSy bits thrown in to the mix, but that's just because that's how I like to ride Nice one.

Golly Gee Mr. Travis, you're a long way south!

Do you realize quite how ridiculous this comparison is?

I dunno about outlasting a decent one (newer Onzas, some Deng etc. [Edit2: generally frames that are as light as sensibly possible without compromising strength])... (Edit: Not to say it won't - but I'd be surprised. Alloy frames have a lot of experience and testing, where as this is the first production model - there's bound to be necessary improvements to make that only get spotted once lots of people ride them.) I can happily see it outlasting a Sky or Bjorn etc. though. Just didn't want to state it as a fact since it's pure speculation, and I'd hate to fall under the same category of people I'm having a go at It's an encouraging sign that it was in testing for so long. If it'd been a Deng project, he'd no-doubt have just produced it, and let the punters find out what does and doesn't work Ali - I believe that "weight" should've been "weigh", and the "130" refers to "130lbs", which is strange as I thought the UK was the only region of Europe stupid enough not to have gone fully metric. ...But I'm fairly sure you knew that (assuming that's what he meant), and are just playing the antagonist

To all these people claiming they'd snap it just by looking at it: just how the f**k would you know? Sure, they won't be as strong as a non-SL-alloy frame, but you have absolutely no grounds for claiming it'll snap straight away. Maybe I'll get proven wrong and they'll be a total disaster, but you guys are the ones constantly complaining that trials is so far behind other cycling disciplines technology-wise. How can we move forwards if you'll just shun anything new on the basis that it might not work? Crewkerz made an AS30 BB/crank/freewheel system and you all lost your shit 'cause it didn't fit a different standard. Sure - they might've gotten a better reception had they gone BB30 instead, but at least they're trying! It's not overpriced, either. You're mostly paying for the "new" technology, design, effort, and the prestige of it being the first production carbon frame (not to mention the Monty logo), not the weight advantage.

My guess goes at them being bought from someone/where on the Europe mainland, and couldn't be arsed to swap levers over and re-bleed them Looks sweet. Try-All certainly aren't subtle with their branding, are they

There's customer reviews on Tarty's product pages - or are you looking for bikeradar type reviews?

Thank you for intervening. Things could have gotten ugly, had you not got here first

No-one asked you to

+ pads... I can't see melted epoxy-resin soaking in to them doing brake pads much good Expensive habit that one. Haha.

It's not "like", it "is" Cool riding though! You get to a pretty wide range of cities!

Just looked this up. That's even cooler than the other option! Disadvantage of not running brakes: failure to keep up to date with awesome as shit innovations

Really? I thought that was just the reach, rather than the bite. Do the Saints run a larger master cylinder and smaller slaves so the pads move more then? That's a fooooooking good idea!

BB7 with an SD7 lever for cable, MT2 for hydraulic. MT2s are perhaps the nicest feeling hydraulics I've ever sampled. Saints are super-powerful, but I there was something about the lever feel I didn't quite like. Much more cost-effective, too! Just a shame you don't get any bite adjustment - but then they are more budget brakes.

Don't you like it? Reverting to the Echo, or something new?

Wait... Does that mean you actually understood and recognized it from that shitty description, and it was the one I meant?!That is just incredible, if you did.

Eugh. Isn't that just always the way?! I skimmed through the four earliest albums twice over, and missed it, then found it pretty much straight after asking! 3:20 onwards. Thanks anyway Edit: I guess no-one would've got it... I remembered it somewhat differently to how it actually is